Counterfeit Chinese Cables


I thought that I would write this for those who are curious about one of the many counterfeit Chinese interconnect cables that are available these days. I know that there have been threads about the subject before, and I was always curious because they seem to be such a bargain. I don't really recall much about what any members actually said about the performance of these counterfeit cables, and I didn't look back and do any research, but a couple of months ago there was a thread that came around to discussing the quality of Chinese made components, and oldhvymec said something that made sense to me.

He said that people that say that what they are making is junk should consider that much of what is in our gear, and a lot of our American brands are actually manufactured there. I decided shortly after that that I would take the chance on a set of interconnects, because I suspected that the interconnects going from my pre to my amp were the weak link and needed upgrading. The interconnects going from my DAC to my pre were Kimber Select which are very good, but the other set were LAT International (now defunct) which had cost $500.00 when new, but I had reason to believe they were lacking because I have one of their digital cables that turned out to be very poor sounding in comparison to others I own.

I decided on a one meter pair of counterfeit Nordost Odin interconnects for a total of $104.00 from Aliexpress. I received them a couple of weeks later. They appeared to be well made, and the locking fake WBT rca's were very impressive and are very tight. 

First impressions after installing them were light, thin sound, lacking bass. Each couple of days brought improvements, but from the beginning I noticed that they were quieter. Now, weeks later, I can say that they are drastically better that the LAT's in every way. Detail and ambience are much better, but it's the focus and separation of instruments that is most noticeable. 

I have no way of knowing if they are really a copy of the Nordost design, but I am impressed enough that I am going to try a counterfeit Nordost digital cable.

Obviously, this isn't a comparison that is useful to most, because there probably isn't anyone here using the LAT's, and everything is system dependent. I just wanted to relay my positive experience. 

Nordost ODIN&2 RCA Fever Audio Signal Cable Double Lotus Sterling Silver Audio Cord Video CD Amplifier Tube Cable High Quality| | - AliExpress

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@ozzy That sucks. I ordered a different cable from vinshle Official store and broke the ground pin on it, and they responded in a few ours and shipped a new pin out to me the same day. Of course, I had to pay 3.50 in shipping. 

Yeah, I can’t even make a claim with the CC company since a package was received. Albeit containing only half the order, luckily only out about $20.

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I've taken the plunge and ordered a few items from Quincrown Audio.  They shipped in one day, have answered all questions within hours and UPS have notified me the package is in thier system.  Scheduled to arrive in 10 days.  Will give a full report after trying them out.  Cheap entertainment if nothing else.  

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/911734184?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.2b9e1802y5jKHg

I purchased several thousands of dollars in four separate purchases from RM Digital https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1101704701?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.1c0218025ae1Uo

They were transacted on PayPal.

They have a great Valhalla 2 speaker wire clone and the Odin Gold Power. They both were better than my Valhalla 1 speaker and power and Purist Dominus ferox power, old Elrod statement 2, and Kubala emotion power. I never had an Odin gold or Valhalla 2 to compare with. Shipments take a month to arrive (in early 2022).

Well my XLR neardost odin 2’s showed up yesterday. The connectors were as @rolox described, with the rear plastic shell.
previously I’d been using a pair of “Core.Cables X2” 99.99% ofc xlr between amp and pre & a pair of Tributaries “delta series” RCA between dac and pre. Speaker cables were 10ga monster cable, the stuff that looks a lot like lamp cord.

I put one pair of the clones between my preamp and amp, and the other between dac and pre.

I definitely noticed a difference, more detail, more air, and maybe more specificity in separation of instruments. But at the same time, a little lean, and dry in the mids. Wasn’t really sure how I felt about it.

I’d intended to just listen with the new interconnects, but impatience got the better of me a I hooked up the pair of the flat Valhalla clone speaker cables. Holy smokes! That was a change for the better, and not a subtle one. I think the best way to describe it is to say that if my cables were photos, the old ones were slightly out of focus, and with too little contrast, and that has now been resolved. It really felt like something that I hadn’t realized was between me and the music had been removed. On one song, I actually heard distinct soft backup vocals that I’d never realized were there. It was eerie.

Still kind of wondering about the interconnects tho, although I’ve only had a chance to listen to them for a couple hours.