@fleschler +1 "Now I think I will begin another forum concerning manufacturers supplying measurements and testing"
that would be great, please do!
Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
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@westcoastaudiophile Here it is: Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why? @noske That's a laugh. Criticizing the poor quality of the nakedness. I'm still laughing. |
@fair -- All that typing, and all that work, but not even a minute of research to understand why a resistive load is used for amplifier testing. It took me a bit longer to understand this item. I think I spent almost 30 minutes, but now I am comfortable with the answer. I also know now that everyone uses resistors for testing including Stereophile. Stereophile has a simulated speaker load, but this measurement provides no additional information that cannot be ascertained in other measurements. I quickly found at least 6 and probably there are many more discussions on using complex loads for amplifier testing on ASR. I had to Google to understand some of the terms, but I muddled through. Even the stronger proponents of complex load testing, after the discussion progressed, agreed it was of limited and would only be valuable with an extreme speaker and a marginal amplifier.
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When you test an amplifier, you have to pick a condition that all amplifiers will pass, or the data can't be used for comparison. But all loudspeaker loads are not the same. Hook an amplifier up to an Apogee with 1 ohm or less impedance and you will smoke a lot of amplifiers at high power levels. Measurement testing is not the final answer. Real world testing is final arbitrator. |
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