Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

Even the stronger proponents of complex load testing, after the discussion progressed, agreed it was of limited and would only be valuable with an extreme speaker and a marginal amplifier.  

 

The Scintilla, would be a very rare speaker to encounter. The above statement covers this situation. Negating the value of measurements because they only apply in 99.99% of situations is a fools outcome.

Negating the value of measurements because they only apply in 99.99% of situations is a fools outcome.

In the segment I shop in, I'm very likely to get a difficult to drive speaker. I can list them if you would like. My history shows about 80% difficult loads.

@crymeanaudioriver 

"We cannot change anything until we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses."  CJ

Take a deep breath... Inhale...exhale... just BE... you'll be OK... 

@russ69 Maybe 85%-90% sounds right.  There are many lower efficiency, low impedance, high phase angle speakers but so many more are easy to drive (horn loaded, Tannoy's, etc.) with only one set of difficult parameters (e.g. Harbeth's-low efficiency, nominal easy impedances, my Legacys with high efficiency, lower impedances).  The Apogees and MBL speakers are anomalies whereas common Maggies just need power).

"The Apogees and MBL speakers are anomalies whereas common Maggies just need power..."

I guess it all started with the Infinity Servo Static and then the entire Infinity Quantum reference line...and my little MMGs just didn't like my AES (Cary) Six-Pacs, did weird things, actually buzzed at low volumes?