Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?


After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication.  Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review.  One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products. 

Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications.  Those are not test measurements.

I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any.  Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements.  Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred.   Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture.  Do they have something to hide?   I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.  

ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions.   Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?

Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."  

Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.   

I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.  

fleschler

man, i really dont like the refusal to publish measurements. i really dislike it, especially with the turntables. a few companies that dont publish specs have sent em to me when i asked. 

i can believe that some cables sound better than others.

the biggest thing that keeps comin to mind as i read it is..."objectivist" is already taken, and it got nuthin to do with hifi.

@amir_asr

Maybe to you $100 is nothing but for others, it is good money they don’t want to throw out.

Why do you think its not worth it? You are stuck in a loop, if it costs more than (whatever cable you happen to use) so it must be bad.

No one can help you here, you are stuck (trapped) in a fog of stubbornness, why do you want to drag everyone else into the fog with you? Danny tried lifting you out, Darko certainly gave you good advice, yet here you go on and on advising everyone else what to do with THEIR money. Stop already with the complaining.

Are you going to finally reveal your system with pics and measurements in your profile? You already said this is a thread about measurements OK?

 

Amir, you are a professional with a high profile. You have my respect for what you built (even though I don't agree with you or your members on everything) Don't just show up and be so callous (or irksome), OK?

@mitch2 After reading your post concerning the Benchmark L4, you mentioned having sought out pre-amps exceeding $10K cost.  I would recommend the Audio Research SP28 at $12K if you could afford it.  Only if you change the input tubes to 6N6 or 6H6 (cheap tubes).  Otherwise, you would be better off with the Benchmark if it sounds (or rather lack of sound) pleasing with your fuller/warmer sounding front end.