What is the “World’s Best Cartridge”?


I believe that a cartridge and a speaker, by far, contribute the most to SQ.

The two transducers in a system.

I bit the bulllet and bought a Lyra Atlas SL for $13K for my Woodsong Garrard 301 with Triplanar SE arm. I use a full function Atma-Sphere MP-1 preamp. My $60K front end. It is certainly, by far, the best I have owned. I read so many comments exclaiming that Lyra as among the best. I had to wait 6 months to get it. But the improvement over my excellent $3K Mayijima Shilabi was spectacular-putting it mildly.

I recently heard a demo of much more pricy system using a $25K cartridge. Seemed to be the most expensive cartridge made. Don’t recall the name.

For sure, the amount of detail was something I never heard. To hear a timpani sound like the real thing was incredible. And so much more! 
This got me thinking of what could be possible with a different kind of cartridge than a moving coil. That is, a moving iron.

I have heard so much about the late Decca London Reference. A MI and a very different take from a MC. Could it be better? The World’s Best? No longer made.

However Grado has been making MI cartridges for decades. Even though they hold the patent for the MC. Recently, Grado came out with their assault on “The World’s Best”. At least their best effort. At $12K the Epoch 3. I bought one and have been using it now for about two weeks replacing my Lyra. There is no question that the Atlas SL is a fabulous cartridge. But the Epoch is even better. Overall, it’s SQ is the closest to real I have heard. To begin, putting the stylus down on the run in grove there is dead silence. As well as the groves between cuts. This silence is indicative of the purity of the music content. Everything I have read about it is true. IME, the comment of one reviewer, “The World’s Best”, may be true.
 

 

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Mijo, does your Seti offer both current- and voltage-mode drive?  Was wondering how you can know, except by guesstimate, that you are getting "6db" more gain from current-drive vs voltage-drive.  Most companies won't list a gain spec for their current mode phono stages, I think because net gain from current output is so dependent upon how the internal impedance of the cartridge interacts with the input impedance of the stage.  However, at the output in both cases you do have a voltage, so that's where you could compare the two types of stage in terms of db output.  The difference between current- and voltage-drive would be different for every cartridge, in this case.

I have signed my tool, too.  I call it "Mr Happy". But I refuse to lacquer it.

There is a switch on the front panel of the Seta. You can go back and forth between current mode and voltage mode. On my Lynx Hilo I have both input and output metering in one dB increments with a peak hold function. 6 dB is 6 pixels to the right and I am not blind yet. Yes, the gain depends on the internal impedance of the cartridge and I will have three different low impedance cartridges with which to test that theory. 

It sounds to me that Mr Happy could use a good lacquering. 

For a certain level of Clientele, even Sake can be supplied in finest of packaging craft man produced to an ancient discipline. I'm pretty much sure the Vessel for containing the Sake, will have been produced from the Furnace of a renowned Ancient Families present day members maintaining the traditions.

It is always down to how a certain individual likes to separate themselves from a more common approach to a purchasing of a Product and how much pomp and ceremony they choose they need to attach themselves to Justify the purchase of a luxurious item.

I have seen a few descriptions offered of the MSL Signature Cart's across different forums and have only seen one that has added much rosiness and romanticism as the influencing factor of the Purchase. 

I went into my Garden Shed and have seen a Saw from a Bygone era, and thought WOW!, that's impressive Craftmanship, I want to buy a Cartridge with all this Heritage and Tradition behind it. Then ending up with Titanium, Extra Super Duralumin, Super Duralumin and Boron as the Item that is the connection to the past craftmanship. That is difficult for myself to buy into. 

I prefer, I have a few quid spare and bought this and for me it proved to be up my street and a good buy it was too, but that's me.       

@pindac, it seems you missed the point probably because I did not word it well. 

The beauty of a fine, hand forged Japanese handsaw is that it will be perfectly tensioned and follow a line perfectly on both sides of the wood. It won't wander off the cut. With commercial saws it is hit or miss. It is entirely about performance. Getting a saw to to cut perfectly straight takes time and skill. The masters that are business savvy will have their personal line then a commercial line that uses their name but is not made or signed by the master.

With cartridges it is all about performance which requires extreme precision with very small parts. It is not that Yoshio Matsudaira builds second rate cartridges for other companies, it is obvious that he does not. but I do think he puts that much more into his own. This is all about performance. Aesthetics are secondary.   

 

I'm still very curious if anyone has had the pleasure of listening to the MSL Gold Sig vs. Platnium Sig in the same system and can tell me the differences. 

Thanks in advance