Tube preamp options


My system from the preamp on consists of a rouge rp-7, rogue m180 monoblocks, and vandersteen quatro wood speakers. My main source is a brinkmann Bardo through a Rogers PA-2 phono pre. It all sounds great. But there's that itch, you know? I get tremendous soundstage but not that much depth. Clarity is great, mids are nice, bass is excellent. But it doesn't quite have that in the room sound that I'm looking for. The RP7 sounded too solid state and analytical for me out of the box with the stock JJ tubes so I've done extensive rolling. Been through all sorts of NOS tubes and landed on amperex as they seem to have the best balance of warmth and clarity. My thought is, maybe I can find a pre that has those attributes out of the gate without all the rolling. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of being able to tailor the sound with trying different tubes but I feel like maybe there's a brand out there who's house sound I like better. I haven't listened to anything more yet but brands that are on the list to check out are Backert labs, maybe a used ARC Ref 6, VTL, VAC. There are a million little boutique brands tho and I'm asking what people have heard in the 10k price range, new or used, that might be a good fit for me and why. 

Thanks! 

rmdmoore

OP - Johnny R is a great dude and has setup many Quattro in many rooms. If you go down the path of pulling them out, which is a worthy experiment, make sure you rerun Vandertones AND especially revisit the Q setting to get back some or all of the slam if you feel it’s lacking.  Get in touch IF i can help in any way. i do a lot of FREE Vandy setup work because it keeps me sharp… well, maybe sharper…

BTW my brother runs a Cadenza Black into Vandy thru an ARC / Threshold chain with superb image depth. Good on ya to expect better… you will get there…

Jim

I am currently using a Canary Audio C630 tube preamp. Had a Decware Torii Junior amp, wanted a little more gain. Tried the RP-7, far less output. Turns out the C630 is the base of the sound I have. Simply delicious! Like a gourmet meal. Upped power output by selling Decware and getting a PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP. The C630 is Canary Audio's entry level preamp, would be interesting to see what stepping up in their line would provide. I never see any mention of them on this forum, thought I'd throw in my 2 cents...

I use an Aesthetix, Calypso Signature w/Amperex, Tungsram & Telefunken 12AX7 & 6922 tubes and it's about as good as it gets. Not sure where I'd go from here without dropping $12-$15K. Aesthetix = HQ - tubes making a huge difference in this lineatage & in my setup. Just my opinion...

I can absolutely recommend the Don Sachs line preamp (6SN7 based).  I purchased one just to give it a try and ended up selling my ARC-Ref-5SE and pocketing about $10k in the process.  It's that good... in my system, your milage may vary.  Innuous_Zen--> Holo_May_KTE_DAC--> Don_Sachs_Pre--> Coincident_Frankenstein_MK-III_300B_Monoblocks--> BD_Design_Oris_Horns 

I can imagine the Don Sachs line stage and Frankenstein mono blocks pairing sounding very natural and also emotionally involving.

Charles