Here we go. Another thread ruined by the usual culprit.
System that sounds so real it is easy to mistaken it is not live
My current stereo system consists of Oracle turntable with SME IV tonearm, Dynavector XV cartridge feeding Manley Steelhead and two Snappers monoblocks running 15" Tannoy Super Gold Monitors. Half of vinyl records are 45 RMP and were purchased new from Blue Note, AP, MoFI, IMPEX and some others. While some records play better than others none of them make my system sound as good as a live band I happened to see yesterday right on a street. The musicians played at the front of outdoor restaurant. There was a bass guitar, a drummer, a keyboard and a singer. The electric bass guitar was connected to some portable floor speaker and drums were not amplified. The sound of this live music, the sharpness and punch of it, the sound of real drums, the cymbals, the deepness, thunder-like sound of bass guitar coming from probably $500 dollars speaker was simply mind blowing. There is a lot of audiophile gear out there. Some sound better than others. Have you ever listened to a stereo system that produced a sound that would make you believe it was a real live music or live band performance at front of you?
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@atmasphere : I don't care about your M-2.
My friend never mentioned to the designer that he did not wants tubes ( as I posted he was a tube lover. Even designed 2-3 that he used with his Quad's. ). The SL designer was who gave him the JC recomendation.
I know very well all the facilities of the SL and I really know it. Already know about both transformers, even I mentioned here to mijos. So in what thread are you reading?
Useless your post, at least for me.
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I recently attended a Connie Han Trio concert in an intimate room and the drums were so over-miked that it was hard to hear the other players. No idea why the drums were even amplified. I need a reason to get out of the house these days and enjoy the atmosphere of live concerts, but overall prefer listening to my home system with a Don Sachs front end, an Aqua LaVoce DAC, and Spatial Audio speakers, where most everything is dialed in. I control the volume, not the guy on the mixing board. |
@atmasphere @rauliruegas , OK guys, I'm the one who owns the SLs. You are both right and both wrong. Asking Dipole ESLs to make bass causes a lot of trouble. They will do it but it knocks the wind out of them in regards to headroom and increases distortion very obviously unless you only listen to them whisper quiet. Ralph's amps do a better job of driving them but I am still going to cross out at 100 Hz to subwoofers. I am not crossing out of the SLs because I am using JC 1s and am worried about their ability to make bass into ESLs. I am doing it so I can get a clean 105 dB out of the SLs and not be slapping the stators with every drum beat. Roger West knows this and has actually made ESL subwoofers. Last we talked he was making a client subs using 30" woofers. |
SL used to make and sell a single huge ESL woofer panel to be placed in between a pair of their largest speakers, then called the A1. They also made add on wings for the A1, to attenuate the back wave and reduce cancellation. That becomes less necessary with their current curved arrays. I get wonderful chest thumping bass out of my 845PXs, and if I were to add subwoofers I would crossover way below 100Hz. But that’s just me. I am not offended if someone else wants to do differently. |
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