Powered speakers show audiophiles are confused

@thespeakerdude again. Read slowly ... I am not opposed to any concept or any system. No dogma. However in the real world FULLY ACTIVE SYSTEMS WITH DA AMP CABLES SPEAKER DSP IN ONE TEND TO BE A COST ISSUE COMPROMISE.

Trinnov ... I used to make 7.1.4 sound like stereo mm3 with no DSP.

Are we clear?

I set up the trinnov to be AS INVISIBLE AS POSSIBLE ON THE L R 

I feel I must further take issue with labelling any amplifier the best on its own. Amplifiers and speakers form a system. Colleagues would argue, correctly I must accept, that amplifiers, speakers, and the room form a system. No amplifier is the best amplifier for every speaker, and no amplifier is the best amplifier for every speaker and room combination. Tube amplifiers, even your Allnic, are often a poor choice for speakers where the delta from maximum to minimum impedance is large, and the minimum impedance is low. That amplifier could impact a significant and negative character on a speaker that a much lower cost SS amp would not.

brianlucey
I started in acoustics and physics then moved into movie sound about 35 years ago. I've been to many big studios but not for music but for movies. and I'm putting in my studio now for movies not music. Dolby Atmos was meant for movies not music. I have worded at music studios but didn't enjoy it as much as sound for movies. Sorry if that is beneath you.

Oscar for Titanic Oscar nomination for Pearl Harbor

Emmy for The Watcher

Emmy for CSI

Lots of Golden Reel dialog awards CSI Miami and others

brianlucey
Also 30 years of live mixing and mixing orchestras, also sound for plays, also sound for radio shows, also sound for commercial buildings, also setting up sound systems for concerts, also working on recording studio sound systems, also consulting for production sound recording manufactures, also consulting on movie post production sound systems. Also designing mathematic raytracing programs for JBL, also doing basic acoustic research for Crown. 

You don’t seem to understand, in detail, what that Trinnov does. Even in L&R Mode, it is applying corrections at the speaker level.

https://www.trinnov.com/en/blog/posts/trinnov-optimizer-features-according-to-l-r-excursion-curve/

FULLY ACTIVE SYSTEMS WITH DA AMP CABLES SPEAKER DSP IN ONE TEND TO BE A COST ISSUE COMPROMISE.

May I ask how many fully active speakers you have developed over your career? You appear to be stepping far out of your area of expertise. Even your MMThree are a cost compromise. For the implementation of DSP, D/A, amplification and power supply, in many situations, we would be hard pressed to make it cost more. For these sub components of the design we could add frivolous components that would increase the cost, but they would not improve the sound and hence would not generate a resale premium to our target professional markets. These sub components are not the limiting factor in the SQ of our products. That will still be the driver components and cabinet / acoustics for the long foreseeable future.

One observation I will make about brianlucey and donovabdear is that the markets they serve have much different requirements where consistency and subsequently accuracy is concerned. For music, mixing or even mastering with substandard SQ or highly musical setups yields good results as the target playback devices are diverse and lacking standards and you don’t have the criticality of dialogue. For movies, the opposite is true. There is high consistency in playback in theaters, and even home systems due to automated room correction. Not only is there high consistency, but there is an expectation of consistency and a need due to dialogue. Brian’s musical amplifier and speaker combination may not cut is in donovadbear’s world. Our market intelligence suggests ATMOS and related formats driving music towards more accurate systems over time.