@tablejockey , I have a similar situation, my room is well setup for atmos but it took effort. I totally discounted atmos in headphones, putting it in the category of upfiring speakers and atmos soundbars. Now that @brianlucey shared its a game its a game changer I am smiling. A really good stereo/headphone rig is $$$. I’ll bet I can get a good atmos headphone rig with a nice set of cans and one of those THX headphone amps for a lot less. What gets me REALLY excited if the idea of a SOA Atmos headphone rig. Did you ever hear of Jim Fosgate? Black Ice audio has partnered with him on their designs. They have a tube based headphone amp and are bringing out a SOA headphone amp (The Aries) that Jim designed to replicate his own SOA audio system. I am getting the idea of an tube based, SOA headphone/atmos system that wouldn’t be affordable or practical for my room.