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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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@thespeakerdude Very well said, my center speaker is horizontal not vertical but it doesn’t matter because the speakers are point source the way things are in real life. Speaker imaging is more important than I thought, I thought it was phasing especially near field reflections, perhaps I’m wrong about that. With microphones it is always a compromise choosing between directionality and off axis coloration. Omnis have perfect off axis response but poor rejection to unwanted sound. I always use the widest polar pattern possible to keep off axis coloration to a minimum and to not pull in unwanted sound. Amazing how speaker and microphones mirror each other. 

I am looking at the Ones and can only imagine what that 134 pound sub must be like 😎 Obviously overkill for a HT but like how they couple it with the monitors for a full range solution.

 

@donavabdear , I have a complete digital workstation and have complete control over everything. It will tell me the exact timing errors of every group. Everything is on a simple wireless network. Only important equipment is hardwired. It seem to be way less complicated than what you are doing judging by your description. I did not need anyone's help to do anything. I have a system in the shop, one in the garage and another in the workout room. They all run on the network and I control them all from a phone.

@kota1 , I hate to sink your ship but that thing you showed us is an indiscriminate vibration machine.  That is a terrible way to design a subwoofer enclosure. That enclosure is going to resonate it's back side off. The Newtonian forces generated by that driver have considerable leverage over the enclosure. The end result is that enclosure will shake, vibrate and that vibration is distortion. Subwoofer drivers need to be as close to the floor as possible with the bulk of the enclosure's mass behind the driver to neutralize those forces as much as possible. Even then, if the driver is not counterbalanced by an identical driver pointed in the opposite direction the enclosure will shake to some degree depending on it's mass. Look at my current subs on my system page. The 12" drivers are low to the floor and the enclosures are made of Corian and weight almost 200 lb. They still shake which has prompted me to build a new set using opposing drivers and an even stiffer method of construction. 

@mijostyn I didn’t buy that Sub because of exactly the reasons you said. These are the subs I got they are still a bit odd looking. That speaker is not a sub it is a woofer. 50 to 500hz

 

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