Implications of Esoteric G-0Rb atomic clock

Audiofeil: "I think the manufacturer in this discussion is suffering from what Freud called 'Product Envy'"

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Liudas

The Memory Player, produced by the Nova Physics Corp. made clocking obsolete! Here's how it was explained:

"All clocking does is synchronize the laser with the DAC. Clocking synchronizes the beginning of the time the sampler is "open" for the laser to seek & read the bits. So clock & clock again & you only get the sampling period to start exactly when the laser begins reading a new section of the CD.

The problem is the bits can be read at any time during the sample period, and are read randomly. So the bit, a representation of a moment of music, is always late. Sometimes a little, sometimes intolerably late.

So clocking ever more precisely improves an area that is already nearly perfected in $200 DVD players at Walmart.

All Memory Players extract music bits as a mirror of the master. No more clocking to sync to anything, no jitter as nothing moves, only laser reading efficacy & ONLY reading music bits, hence, a mirror of the master.

As you have no error concealment bits to back up a missed bit, Memory Players must reread to capture all bits dropped in the first pass. If we used error correction bits, we're back to synthetics again so the goal is to reread more & more & faster & faster. In this way, very few bits will be lost & the ONLY bits you CAN hear, are MUSIC BITS.

It is not dependent upon a clock. All of the music bits are on memory & just stream off the memory in the order & TIME they were recorded.

The small community that is either copying the MP or designing their own now that the cat is out of the bag, know the CD player as we know it is going extinct. Good riddance. It was a poor compromise they chose in 1982. They had it nearly perfect (& perfect on CDs containing programs instead of music) but relaxed error correction to fit Furtwangler's Beethoven's 9th symphony on it & digital audio was never right again."

So who would pay $15k on a clocker that merely reduce jitter?

Rather than open yet another thread on MP(I've heard MP & yes it does sound good), I'll address the post by observing that the manufacturer's claims concerning MP theory of operation remain opaque & controversial. There has been too much delay bringing MP to market to consider it at present a serious threat to existing technology. Finally, there appear to be questions as to whether its technology is unique and patentable. The latest AA thread below addresses the controversy & also includes Gordon J. Rankin's recipe on how to build a "DIY memory player" in several easy steps. As regards music servers in general, in his review RH elevates the Esoteric with rubidium clock above HD systems like Sooloos & Qsonic. In any event with servers there is still the need for a clock at the DAC.

http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/digital/messages/13/136279.html

This is certainly a naive question, but why can't a CD player store the entire contents of a disc in memory, then send them to the DAC, which would be the equivalent of reading a file from a hard drive? Is that the definition of a music memory player? If it is, why is that controversial? Not spoken, of course, as a digital engineer.

Lapaix, having worked for several years trying to get the ultimate jitter-free sound from a computer source, I can say that it remains better, audibly better, to play files from USB RAM rather than from hard drives. Yes, hard drives are read in packets, and yes, they are buffered extensively throughout a computer system's busses and operating system and playback software and hardware drivers, but the sound remains better from a USB RAM. And this remains worse than the sound achieved when slaving a CD player to a master dac synchronously. The ultimate point in buffering is not the size of the buffer, but the quality of the clock signal. And the quality of the clock signal depends ultimately on all of the surrounding factors including: its own power supply, the radiating ambient high frequency EM signals from other quartzes and other busses, vibrations (hard disks vibrate), and many other things knowns and possibly unknown. THere are several forums on the internet where people have been discussing computer audio for years and some have reached a very high end sound this way. However, once you put all the solutions up to the line and really compare, it remains improbable that merely enlarging a buffer will take away all the digital nasties. Another way of looking at it is that a CD already is a buffer. It is the buffer that is holding the DATA which was recorded at the finite moments of A/D sampling (during the recording). Whether CD, DVD, hard disk, ram, or anything else, the playback depends on the quality of clocking it.