has anyone tried chinese cables?


Some of the cables on Ali Express, for example, look nice.  Of course, things like "Odin 2" cables for a few hundred dollars aren't legit, and the number of Cardas copies are legendary.  That doesn't necessarily mean they all suck.  They probably aren't all trademark-infringing ripoffs.  Lots of good hifi products are made in China, and those factories need to stay busy.  Asking if anyone has actually tried them; there's no way to tell visually what lies inside the insulation, or whether occ 7n copper really is only 6n. 
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@williewonka 

thanks for the detailed analysis; I agree with it, for the most part.  Would add that the construction methods and skill also matter.
 

But, if cable materials and construction were the whole story, there would be far fewer cable deniers.  It seems strange that some people who can not hear the differences seek to project their disability onto others.  Haven’t we all, at some point, at least compared zip cord to something more exotic?  

Even for Chinese manufacturers who try to describe their cables, it can be difficult to understand what they are trying to say. 

I went ahead and bought some Viborg “pure silver” interconnects, which seem to me to be excellent, and a relative bargain (the $350 ones, not their $2100 versions).  Also some Viborg power plugs for dyi power cords, which I am convinced  are at least as good as the best Furutech or Oyaide, at 1/5 the cost.  Some of the top boutique cables use them.  MPS makes some outstanding cables too, under their own name.


It’s an interesting question whether any IP is being infringed by, say, Chinese “Odin” cables.  TM infringement requires a “likelihood of confusion as to source”, etc. But no audiophile would likely be fooled or confused, if they knew where the cables came from, or what the real thing really looks like, or costs.  Secondary market, maybe so, though. But lawsuits would be very expensive and are unlikely to be very helpful. 
 

I am curious about the Audioquest asian copies.  I believe they can more or less duplicate the design and construction, but not the wire itself or outstanding construction quality.  Could still be a relatively good buy. 

@lloydc - I've tried Viborg products and found them to be pretty good - I've tried their Power Plugs/IEC's and they were well made from silver plated copper. But I do prefer the Sonarquest (also form china) Power Plugs/IEC's, Their IEC's grip like a vice. Also tried Vanguard products, but still prefer the Sonarquest

For Interconnects and speaker cables I use KLE Innovations RCA and Bananas - both silver plated copper. I've found they convey more details and a clearer, more spacious image.

Not sure if you have seen this thread - it has lots of info regarding different wire combinations/connectors tried on the HELIX DIY cables if interested - It's a very long read though

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/duelund-conversion-to-diy-helix-geometry-cabling.

Regards - Steve

 

 

I've tried many of the fake "Odin" cables and still use their power cords and speaker cable. Most of them are really good.

Now I ordered some Xangsane pure silver solid core bulk interconnect cable (Xangsane SP-9001Ag) as a few of my friends have tried it and it has become their favorite cable. I'm awaiting delivery.

Not everything that comes from China is junk!