room size question.


( wasnt sure what category to put this in ,so figured this one would get more views)

 

in watching some you tube videos, one from Jays audio lab, and another one from Paul ( ps audio ), they both mention how the speakers should be set up in the room and it seems they bring them out into the room quite a bit.    they say that when this happens, you have the soundstage and jay was mentioning that there are layers that one gets to hear when listening.

my question i guess is that can this same thing happen in a smaller room, say 12x12 or is one just limited to say center imaging due to room size ?

room is treated

 

this is the ps audio video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x63RORq8JMw

jays video 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZOWcvbfNZw

bshaw

@bshaw

I agree , It must be frustating.

I have soundstage , depth , and height.

My room is 12 X 30 (it is opened to the dining room )

The walls are covered with absorbtion-diffuser and diffuser pannels.

( maybe too many )

The ceiling has some acoustic pannels as well.

May be , some speakers are better at soundstage-depth-height ??

My speakers (Audiovector R6 Arreté ) are slightly toed in  and tilted .

@bshaw What is the rest of your equipment? Some gear does soundstaging better than other gear. Though as everyone has stated it is mostly speaker positioning.

@maxwave 

 

My room is 12 X 30 (it is opened to the dining room )

which again, even though it opens to a dining room, this is still a lot bigger than a 11 x 12 room.        

 

@jond 

What is the rest of your equipment?    Though as everyone has stated it is mostly speaker positioning.

preamp : aric audio transcend

amp : Innersound esl300

cd player : ayre cx7

speakers : PBN m2 monitors

2 svs subs.

 

speakers are now 30" from back wall and 26" from side wall.      if you move them to far apart, then you lose imagining and just sounds like 2 speakers playing.  brought them closer together and it images just fine....but again, no soundstage. plenty of detail and vocals are clear, just missing that one thing.              i honestly think its the room .    if i had a few more feet either way, i think things would sound different / better ...and dont get me wrong, it sounds good....but just missing the one thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@bshaw

I would try a different speaker, if that’s a possibility. Something a little smaller.

From my experience: when I added a sub, it reduced my soundstage. I tried 5 different subs then to find one that worked.

 

"i honestly think its the room "

Can you change the room?

@grislybutter 

 

trying a different speaker is not an option ( lack of funds )

@vair68robert 

 

will try your suggestion tomorrow and might even pm you .