Grimm MU1 Streamer - Really "The Best"?


I've recently become interested in the Grimm MU1.  While reviews of top end players from Innuos, Aurender and Antipodes and others are typically all very positive, the tone of the many pro reviews of the Grimm MU1 go far, far beyond, with some reviews resorting to using superlatives and gushing of positive system transformation and not being able to stop listening to material, etc..  HiFi Advice and Steve Huff (actually calls it "magic") have such reviews.

Given the delay in availability of the Innuos Pulsar which I'm told will be better than my current Zenith Mk3 + PhoenixUSB reclocker, I am interested in replacing my streaming setup with a one-box solution that includes a high-precision clock.  The new streamer will continue to feed my Gryphon Diablo 300's DAC module, which I have no interest in replacing.

I'm actually a fan of Innuos, after they improved the sound of my Zenith with firmware updates and after I added their PhoenixUSB reclocker. I appreciate this commitment to improving sound quality which is why I was so interested in the Pulsar.

The trigger for considering an upgrade is not for improved sound, but rather, to solve some issues I have with too many Audioquest power cords coiled and clumped together. I will get to lose one of them and one of my USB cords with a one-box streamer. I've noticed my sound is very sensitive to positioning of my AC cords and find I often need to re-adjust the PC feeding my amp to get proper sounding vocals at center stage.  One of my subs also seems to be picking up AC noise when the crossover is set above 60Hz. The second trigger is simply system simplification, removing one box.  All that said I don't really have any complaints regarding sound, and the PhoenixUSB reclocker truly did improve the sound of my Zenith.

While the Grimm MU1 has it's 4X upsampling up it's sleeve with reviewers absolutely glowing over this feature and it's extreme ability to separate tones to the left, right, front, and back far better than the rest, I don't see that Grimm has gone to any lengths with regard to power supply management in the way other brands do including Innuos. The MU1's ultra-simplistic interior doesn't bug me, but the lack of transformers and power management makes me wonder....

Are there any updates from folks who have directly compared the MU1 vs similarly classed streamers from the competition?  Did you find it to be as revelatory as the pro reviewers found it? And, how does it compare to other streamers with it's 4X upsampling disabled?  Does it sound like it suffers from it's lack of power management?  I do see that the clock should be very good...

 

 

nyev

Yep. Going back to the N20 (with presumed limited USB performance so not a full test), it’s just so much more solid sounding, with a nice warmth to it. Less going on with imaging though. And a very subtle high-hat on one particular track is totally audible with the Innuos gear, and not so much on the N20’s USB output. If the AES cable will help the N20 with high and low resolution, with a smidge better separation and depth, the N20 may very well be the winner yet.

As another aside, connecting the PhoenixUSB to the N20’s USB output, adds a touch of transparency but there is something lost. Less warmth, less “upbeatness”. Definitely prefer the N20 without the PhoenixUSB.  And without the PhoenixNET as I mentioned before.  It’s like it’s allergic to Innuos gear.

“Less going on with imaging though”
@nyev

Are you adjusting (toe-in) your speakers when you switch to N20? Based on your own account, both of these streamers differs in how they project imaging in your room.

@lalitk yes, that is correct.  I have two sets of toe in positions marked with a sharpie on the floor!  I have Herbie’s gliders so it’s easy to move the speakers between the two positions.

I've never been able to step back from more resolution, transparency once I've heard it, my goal is progress, lower resolution, transparency  is regression in my book. Certainly there have been times when the extra transparency and resolution has caused hits in other areas, very similar to what OP is experiencing, but I've usually been able to tune and tweak to get the balance I'm looking for. And there have been times when getting that fine balance was unobtainable, in that case the responsible component was sold off. When this happened another  higher resolving, transparent component was purchased to take the offending components place, just couldn't give up on higher resolution once heard.

 

On paper the new Innuos Statement looks very, very  nice.

“ I have two sets of toe in positions marked with a sharpie on the floor”

@nyev 

In that case, something else is out of place. Imaging is not a known issue with N20.