Discuss The Viv Lab Rigid Arm


I am trying to do my due diligence about this arm. I am just having a hard time getting my head around this idea of zero overhang and no offset. Does this arm really work the way it is reported to do?

neonknight

Duh… the Viv arm most certainly DOES generate a skating force, except for the instant when TAE = 0. Overhung tonearms generate a skating force even at the two null points (TAE= 0), because of headshell offset.

Underhung tonearms are the antithesis of a Rube Goldberg device. You and some others dislike the idea because it seems too simple.

As said, Lets see where the snobbery goes.

From another perspective, I do see at times a little competitiveness displayed in relation to HiFi.

When attending a Local Group meeting the Hot Seat can be eyed with intention to have first dibs.

The last Biscuit can be fought over.

As for the equipment belonging to a resident system or a brought along device to be slotted in for a demonstration, I fail to see where the competitiveness is found, the musical encounter is hardly something that generates a King of the Jungle attitude. A curiosity may be expressed, by one who desires to experience an item of interest in ones own system and listening environment.

It will take some convincing to have me embrace such a display of interest as competitiveness.

I do not reveal too much about the work or materials selected to be used, that I have been shown and had descriptions of the merits, that belong to Tonearms I am very familiar with. I can see how revealing too much, might just compromise the Designer/Producers competitive edge. I would not send such a message clearly showing their has been a breach of trust. Again this is equipment based and nothing to do with enjoying a musical encounter.

Terra Firma   

@chayro The intended purpose for arm shopping is to locate a candidate for my MC2000. I need to know arm mass on the Viv arm and so far I have been unable to locate that information. Sent an email to the companies official one over a week ago, never got a response. I will stand pat with my DV505 until I can get a bit more information. 

@rauliruegas , I did not say that all new technology is better, but as a whole technology moves on and the equipment we have today is far superior the the equipment we had in the 60's. The trend is unmistakable. 

@pindac , I do not deal in snobbery pindac. That comment is just an excuse to dismiss opinions you do not like because you have no other way to counter.  The Sun rises in the east and sets in the west. You can argue about the definition of east and west but the Sun comes up over there and goes down over yonder. And, you can not do a damn thing about it.

@neonknight , Buying the Viv arm is a huge mistake. You might as well buy a Yugo. 

 

Neon, you might try buying a Viv tonearm by mail order from Tokyo. The exchange rate between the US dollar and the yen is at an all time high, meaning with one dollar you can now buy more than ¥140. Our son has lived in Tokyo since around 2008, and this is the most favorable exchange rate I have ever seen. in fact, we recently sent him some money to buy an apartment in Tokyo. There are very reputable dealers in Tokyo who may be willing to send you an arm, and I might add the prices in Tokyo last time I was there were 30 to 40% less for Viv, compared to the US retail prices. One of my only reservations about buying a Viv, since it is a bit of an unknown quantity, is the very high cost that puts it at a price level similar to very fine overhung tonearms that I would normally avoid due to cost. Not so in Tokyo.