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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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@donavabdear You are correct, but let’s not call it time alignment, as that usually refers to a speaker correction algorithm. More accurate would be delay correction. Then throw in volume correction (and maybe frequency response correction). ATMOS to work properly must be calibrated to the listening (or mixing) position.

 

@donavabdear 

"correction" this may be the reason you are getting mixed up:

 but let’s not call it time alignment, as that usually refers to a speaker correction algorithm. More accurate would be delay correction. Then throw in volume correction 

Correction this has now gone past confusion and morphed into silliness

@donavabdear

Think how you would have avoided the potholes you are hitting if you would have stuck to the premise you started with in this thread. A matched system of processor/preamp and active speakers and you would have saved budget and aggravation.

Don’t attempt to DIY a fix, it is too expensive when you are talking over six figures into a room (or maybe two when you consider your mix station.) Get a good system integrator familiar with the brands you like, let them do the heavy lifting and kick back.

 

@kota1 This thread did cover those topics but they are all threaded together with the ideas of proper speaker driver practices in general. All these topics happen when you mix active and passive products, we have been looking at the weakness of my active JL Audio 113 subs (d class amp) , the weakness of my BHK preamp tube ( noisy but a wonderful sounding tube component). I’ve tried to keep my general idea of synergy by buying PS Audio’s best components and Focal / Naim components just as synergy is achieved I fully active systems of the same maker like my Genelecs. So all this ideas are what you have when you try to compare and contrast synergy in a music system. And besides I’m new to home stereo and I have you guys to pick your brains, if I started different threads I wouldn’t have learned near as much.

I think I’m going to sell a building to a stereo company, so I’m going to be able to buy equipment for free I’ll just take it off the price of the building at a great discount. Couldn’t pass that up. I’m taking your advise and waiting for a while and learn more before I buy some better equipment.

@donavabdear 

How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

This is a great example of the silliness that audiophiles live under.

Given the budget you invested in your current setup most "audiophiles" as you describe them wouldn't have this many roadblocks. Don't take my word for it, go through the virtual system area and see, ask questions to the owners of the systems that you like.

I’m new to home stereo and I have you guys to pick your brains, if I started different threads I wouldn’t have learned near as much.

This is why I stand by my recommendation to use a professional system integrator. The way you have been posting all over the place it is clear you are new. Your system is very different than most members, including myself. I wouldn't do a mash up of a mix station and a home theater in one media room.  Can it be done? Sure, but you need to measure each MLP and dial in meticulously with equipment choices, speaker setup, and acoustic treatment. IF you find another member who already has a system like that wonderful. Otherwise, you are just going to be taking risks with your budget. Quite frankly spend what you like how you like but that isn't my idea of how to arrive at  good value.

I encourage you to stop by the thread I started on building budget systems that outperform. Then try visiting the thread about people that spend $100K on a system that underperforms. You don't want to be "that guy" that spent a lot, but didn't get a lot IMO. You are speeding in that direction from what I see in your recent posts with your collaborator cheering you on, LOL.