Network optimization for serious streamers


In my ongoing experiments, now going on seven years, with network optimization for streaming I've discovered a number of optimizations that should work with any ethernet ISP.

 

I've tried a variety of ethernet cables, modems, routers, switches, FMC, ethernet filters, the following is what I've found to be most effective optimizations.

 

I'll start with ISP quality and speed. Recently I discovered 500mbps to be preferable to 300mbps. Along with upgrade in speed, modem capable of 1gb service replaced 600mbps, both have Broadcom chips and powered by same lps. Can't say which more responsible for improvement, speed or modem, presume speed has at least some role in ping time. As for ISP, there is importance in ISP server geographic location to you, shorter distances  means lower ping time. For information as to how ping time affects jitter-https://www.fusionconnect.com/speed-test-plus/ping-jitter-test

 

Now for modems,  modem close to audio system is most favorable, extending coax cable preferable to long ethernet cable. Coax more resistant to rfi and closer positioning to system means one can more easily afford top quality ethernet cable for modem to router connection. The modem should use Broadcom chipset vs. inferior Intel Puma, Broadcom chipset has lower jitter vs the Intel. Modem should be powered via external lps using quality DC and AC cables, lps to power conditioner for ultimate performance.

 

Following close positioning of modem to audio system, router should also be placed near modem in service of same advantage of making highest quality ethernet cable more affordable, in this case, modem to router and router to switches, streamers and NAS. Router should be powered with lps, this lps should be able to provide more amps than router requires in service of providing greater reliability, having lps with reserves of amperage means lps runs cooler, heat is enemy of reliability, longevity. As with modem, quality dc, ac cables and connection to power conditioner.

 

The next finding is new to me, provides very meaningful upgrade to streaming sound quality. Noise from wifi, injected both internally to router and externally with routers sitting close to audio systems has long been a concern to me. I have quality Trifield meter which measures rfi, router with operational wifi manufacture obscenely high levels of rfi, rfi is noise, noise is enemy of streaming at level we're talking about here. And its very likely the more wifi devices one has in home the higher the levels of rfi produced. This noise is then injected into following cables and streaming equipment. One may convince themselves FMC totally isolates this noise, and while correct, it doesn't mitigate the noise and masking going on within router. The only way to eliminate this noise is turning off wifi. And then, how to provide wifi for the many  wifi devices we have at home? The answer is to connect a second router to the primary router. The primary router will only provide ethernet for streamers, switches and/or NAS in audio system, also for the second router.  Second router provides wifi for the home, this scheme keeps vast majority of rfi out of audio system streaming chain. My own measurements find rfi significantly diminished in primary router, more than mulitiples of ten times lower vs wifi enabled. This was seamless install with the Netgear routers I'm using. There may also be value in provisioning higher quality routers. My new primary router, Netgear XR1000 is marketed as a gamer router, claims of lower ping time, latency, jitter vs other routers. Since my old router, Netgear RS7000 didn't have means to monitor ping time I can't provide evidence of this claim. Whatever the case, my XR1000 ping time test measurements are as follows, 25.35ms highest, 16.50ms lowest, this is A+ measurements against objective criteria. Ping time under load is download 25.93ms, upload 37.34ms, idle 17.31ms, this rates as A. My speed of 565gbps rates B grade, likely need 1gb service to get A here. At to how this all pertains to sound quality, adding up the upgrade in ISP speed and the off loading of wifi is without a doubt one of the most substantial, if not most substantial network upgrades I've experienced. While I  long considered my setup as having a vanishing low noise floor, with this setup I heard a new level of vanishing if such a thing is possible. Even more astounding was a more analog like presentation, while I wasn't aware of even the slightest digital presentation prior, this upgrade certainly exposed it was indeed there. It seems logical to conclude there has been some lowering of jitter here.

 

And then we come to the ethernet filter. I suppose audiophile switches can be considered as one, then we have actual filters such as Network Acoustics Muon, my JCAT Net XE and others. I continue to believe these necessary even with the all measures above.

 

Optical conversion is also valid approach post router. While I found generic FMC somewhat effective, at this point I prefer ethernet. On the other hand I've not yet tried optimizing a fiber solution, for example two Sonore OpticalModules, both powered by lps, further upgraded with Finisar optical transceivers.

 

Assuming one has high resolving audio and streaming systems the above network optimizations should provide for substantial sound quality improvements. In my system, perception of performers in room has been taken to a new level of intimacy, meaning a more emotional connection to the performers and performance.

 

At this point, I consider network has been fully optimized, the only upgrade I'm aware of would be ISP upgrade to 1gb.

sns

@singingg 

I am also on ATT fiber with apparently the same two devices, Router + ONT. I had been thinking the iFi Elite would be a good choice but was also thinking about a 2-rail LPS and the Keces was also on my radar (along with the Uptone JS2 twin-rail LPS). Tom over on "Toms Corner" forum on WBF recommended the Keces LPS and likes them a lot. They are also reasonably priced.

About 20 days ago, I changed out the stock ATT-provided Network cable from the ONT to the Router with a 1M Supra Cat8+ I had in a box in the garage and I think I'm liking it better. But I'm also wondering if I lost a bit of resolution. I just need to make myself switch back to the ATT Network cable and listen to see what I like best.

Keep me updated on what you do with your ATT ONT/Router. My next step has been to start researching what people are doing as far as LPS for this part of the system, so great that I found you are currently working on that as well. You can look at my sig for the other items I've changed in my network.

@pokey77 I am glad to be in the loop. Let me know when someone moves forward and what they experienced. Today I tested my Y-splitter and it fit both the router and ONT perfectly. This is the last thing for me to explore in my system. Everything I have explored these last four years in every corner of my system has been a keeper, except for two :

1. I am sticking with my $15 ethernet switch after I upgraded it with the iFi iPower X

2. After the WIFI tweak I removed the optical filter because it was coloring the sound ever so subtly.

As usual I don't know what to expect, but I am pretty sure there will be no going back.

I actually found the cheap iFi X was better than the Uptone JS-2 on the modem/router/wifi hardware. For streamers it was the opposite, the JS-2 was better. This surprised me because a linear power supply always tends to improve things.

But I had never tried lps upgrades on network switch type hardware before.

The contiguous ground is what passes noise down the chain from one component to the next. For the purposes of audiophile streaming this is one ‘performance benefit’ you don’t want.

Truly. Ethernet does not need to be shielded to work thanks to the balanced and twisted cables.  However, shielding is good around audio gear to minimize the chances of other gear picking it up, via audio, digital or power cables. To get any shielding to work you have to have a switch/router designed for shielded cables. Not all are.

The best of both worlds is to use shielded Ethernet which connects upstream to a shielded port, and use an Ethernet isolator downstream. This way the entire cable is EMI/RFI shiielded (both ways) but noise doesn’t drain through your destination switch/device.

Wintry mix today. Let’s do some testing.

I can’t remember where I read this recently, maybe in this thread. No matter.

It was reported that the ethernet cable direction makes a difference. My findings : definitely!!!!!

Test piece : Qobuz stream 16/44.1 : Elliott Carter "Horn Concerto" which is a highly detailed and dramatic work sure to reveal any differences.

First, I reversed cat 8 between ONT and router and a veil was removed!!

Second, I reversed Pangea ethernet between switch and Sonore ultraRendu, and I had it right the first time.

Third, I reversed Pangea between switch and Transporter i5 resulting in severe sonic degradation. Back to the way it was originally.

I don’t have the courage to reverse the 50’ cat 8 running under my floor and suspended with cable ties, but extrapolating from what I heard, I think I got it right(grin).

Three out of four ain’t bad, but that one reversal has taken things to a new level of dynamic freedom and sonic clarity.