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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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This video seems like the way I want to go except better speakers, he spoke interestingly about law of diminishing returns near the beginning. I definitely agree with using synergy in equipment but then again I got the Naim / Focal headphones. I'm going to listen before I go with my big system. Last night the system I have now was completely quiet even the subs, infuriating just when I was going to throw $15k of subs in the street they get quiet, oh well. The 9hs with the JL Audio subs are pretty good I was listening to some Magico M3 speakers in Las Vegas and my 9hs with the subs were much better except that the Magico's had no subs and it's lower end had a better transition but not even close to as much punchy and effortless low end, the Magico M3s are just under $100k my speakers I have now are definitely better than those.

@thespeakerdude The dealer Im going through has been doing high end for 30+ years he can get just about anything he would have no problem with Macintosh and Sonus Faber, not sure he could get JBL, long ago JBL did have some very good high end speakers, I've always liked them.  I have a good room and it doesn't need much at all that's why all the DSPs I've used do practically nothing. I'm going to make my own absorption panels simply for a little less reflection in the corner and then put up some curbs on the ceiling for both systems then some damping in the book shelves behind my speakers might just put books in them they work perfectly. I'm also going to get a remote with a timer for my Sub Zero refrigerator in the kitchen in my listening room it's really noisy, I can turn off my air conditioning but it's really hard to get it quiet while it's running I just turn off the whole thing when I want to really listen. As far a money I don't care I want to have a listening system that is an event every time I listen to it. My wife wants me to buy the system I want (crazy I know) she says at least I'll have something the money won't just go up in smoke in the stock market.

 

 

I’m going to listen before I go with my big system +1

I auditioned a Mac MB-50 streamer with Paradigm speakers and an anthem amp at a local dealer. It sounded great. There will be no bad sound in any of the stuff you audition. We are talking an "end game" speaker and after living with active speakers for so long I can tell the difference with passives. It is like coming off the line quickly in NASCAR, actives have that jump factor, instant on power for me. Plus you get MORE for your $$$ going active. HOWEVER, I would gladly place that mac/sf setup in my living room, I just couldn’t part with $100 G’s when I knew I could get that Meridian system instead or five M2’s for bed channels in a home theater .

 

I am laughing because those monoblocks with tubes/solid state for biamping is the same concept Bob Carver came up with his current/voltage connections in his Sunfire amps. Granted these Mac amps are much better but Bob was waaaay ahead of the game as he conceptualized this more than 20 years ago and for a LOT less money.

@kota1 That is funny, Carver was definitely ahead of his time he just had a professional line of PA speakers and mixers that were really bad, I'm sure it wasn't his fault but still his name was on it. 

My BHK amps are tube front end and MOFSET back end that is actually a better system for an amp to sound better if it's connected to a passive or a hybrid speaker like my 9Hs the mid and high end are amazing the mid is a large beryllium cone, maybe 7 inches, even the expensive speakers aren't doing that, the 9h has fixed the edgy sound of the beryllium tweeter by using the grid in front of it, against my better physics judgement but it works.

The Macintosh amps are perfect for bi-amping but what if I bought the Macintosh 900 then also used my BHK monos for tri-amping the Sonus Faber Aida how much latency would you expect, I'm not sure if there are any digital circuits in those amps, and time alignment is of course very important. The Aidas are so beautiful I may not have a choice, I'm falling in love with their looks.
 

If you are going to rely on the room the way it is, get a speaker with a wave guide for the dispersion is controlled. The results will be superior. The Aida is recommended to be at least 6 feet from the front and side walls to fully use their "depth" gimmick. Sorry I meant control.