Beatles vs. Stones


Which do you prefer?

I'd have to go with the Rolling Stones although I do love Revolver.

And you?

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@bigtwin: Two matters:

1- The lyric is actually "when (not "well") after after all it was you and me."

2- I did answer the question: I choose neither. Yesterday I went into my local record store to pick up an album they ordered for me: Lonely Soul by GA-20, a Blues band out of Boston. I walked into the store a coupla weeks ago, and while perusing the LP racks heard music playing on the store’s sound system to which I was immediately drawn. Song after song was fantastic: raw, primal Blues, sort of like early Fabulous Thunderbirds meets a Garage Band, including their version of "Got Love If You Want It"---a Slim Harpo song I had first heard on the Kinks debut album, a fabulous version, far better than what The Stones were (and are) capable of. By the way, I hold The Kinks in higher esteem than both The Beatles and The Stones.

I went over to the counter and checked out the front cover, on which I saw a coupla youngish (compared to me ;-) guys with beards. The back cover had a picture of the two guys holding cool vintage guitars, and album credits. When I saw the names Charlie Musselwhite (harmonica) and Luther Dickinson (slide guitar), I was sold. I rarely do impulse buys, but this one was a no-brainer. My favorite new band!.

Oops, there I go again, penning a short novella ;-) . Back to the topic:

So I entered the store yesterday to pick up the GA-20 (yet another terrible band name ;-) album, and what did I hear playing? That horrid, droning bore of a "song" "Within You Without You" (the damned sitar RUINED George Harrison!). Oh no, I thought to myself; it’s that pos Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. I had other titles I was looking for, and as I started flipping through LP’s I was subjected to "Lovely Rita" (oh for God’s sake, are you kidding me? Who actually likes this sh*t?). That was all I could take. See ya guys, I’ll be back.

If I heard Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band today, as a new release, would I like it? Would you? It strikes me as incredibly corny, especially McCartney’s British Music Hall/nostagia bullsh*t. At least it wasn’t side one; "A Little Help From My Friends"? "Fixing A Hole"? "She’s Leaving Home"? Please, kill me now.

For all you septics that have got it a$$ about face, the Beatles were Scousers, means from Liverpool.

Mick and Keef are from Dartford in Kent and had Souf London accents, Mick later adopted a US southern drawl.

Brian was the brains of the operation until Mick and Keef outed him. He probably wrote a lot of the early stuff and was a musician, way ahead of the other Stones and the Beatles.

Gram Parsons, Ry Cooder and Mick Taylor gave the Stones massive inputs after Brian died and basically created a completely different Rolling Stones.

After listening to the Stones almost everyday for over 50 years I can say that my favourite album is Goat's Head Soup, my favourite track is Down Home Girl or maybe Backstreet Girl.

If you ever get a chance to buy the Stones bootleg Black Album, it's fantastic.

I think Sgt Pepper was great when it came out, and it still is; love every song on there. Can't say the same for every Beatles album. 

Rubber Soul and Revolver are my go-to Beatles albums. I haven’t played SPLHCB in over fifty years. Same for Abbey Road. Way over half of the white album is unlistenible.

Mick Jagger is a terrible singer, Keith Richards a mediocre guitarist (for verification, watch Chuck Berry trying to teach Richards how to play "Oh Carol" in Hail! Hail! Rock 'n' Roll. Keith can’t do it.). And they made a disco album. End of story.

You know why so many have covered Beatles songs, and so few those of The Stones? I do, but you are of course free to consider Jagger & Richards good songwriters if you wish. When was the last Jagger/Richards song you like written? Does fifty years ago seem about right?

@bdp24 Love The Kinks. Generally go for them over Stones, can’t say necessarily the same w/Beatles. Beatles are just…too good. I could certainly, however, produce a “short novella” on my love of The Kinks.  
I consider Sgt. Pepper’s long-held status as #1-all-time-worthy incommensurate with the actual songs. The studio innovation, sure. Songs, not so much. I consider “She’s Leaving Home” gorgeous, brilliant, haunting, indelible and impervious to overplayedness. “A Day in the Life” is just…incredible (I also enjoy the early takes on Anthology 2…Jesus…). 
Obviously this is all subjective but, “Way over half of the White Album is unlistenable”…boy… 
“Dear Prudence,” “Glass Onion,” “Bungalow Bill,” “While My Guitar Gently Weeps,” “Happiness is a Warm Gun,” “Martha My Dear,” “I’m So Tired,” “Blackbird,” “Piggies,” “I Will,” “Julia,” “Mother Nature’s Son,” “Everybody’s Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey,” “Sexy Sadie,” “Helter Skelter,” “Long, Long, Long,” “Honey Pie,” “Savoy Truffle,” “Cry Baby Cry,” “Goodnight.”  
20 of the 30 tracks that are as sublime as pop music gets.
Legit avant-garde songs like “Wild Honey Pie,” “Revolution 9.” Super ballsy to put stuff like that on an LP by the biggest band in the world. Irrespective of artistic courage, I still consider those tracks sonically and artistically remarkable.

Rod Temperton (author of Heatwave, Brothers Johnson, Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones classics), Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff (authors of and producers of too many glorious records by way too many incredible artists to begin to mention), the brothers Gibb, Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Anderson, Giorgio Moroder, and Niles Rodgers (author of Chic, Sister Sledge, Diana Ross, David Bowie) may have something to say about someone using the word “disco” as merely a pejorative.

The primes of Michelangelo, Shakespeare, and Bach ended a lot more than fifty years ago. This has no bearing on whether their art was good.