Ray Charles - "Rap is not music"


I agree with Ray Charles.

 

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@stager     See ya. The fact that you referred to Ebonics - a term that hasn’t been used in 20 years - further shows how out of touch you are. Btw, I believe "nitwit" is a more ad hominem attack than anything I said. I also think it’s not used by anyone except the elf in Rudolph. Anyhow, enjoy being an insecure little bigot, but try to stay in your narrow lane if you can.

@stager 

ad ho·​mi·​nem (ˈ)ad-ˈhä-mə-ˌnem. -nəm. : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect. an ad hominem argument. : marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

- “Bet you never even heard of Tatum or Bird.” 
- “(posts a link to artists who had committed murder)”
- “Nitwit.”

- An ad hominem attack on this user’s level of musical knowledge (saying they probably don’t know about Tatum or Parker) with no evidence to base this ad hominem attack on, doing absolutely nothing to disprove any of this person’s claims with actual facts or actual intellectual argument-making, doing nothing to actually address the subject
- an ad hominem attack on the character of rap artists, conflating criminal behavior of a small sample size of the totality of such artists with musical legitimacy, as though those two things are related, and,
-  in the same sentence in which you accuse someone of an ad hominem attack, your rebuttal is simply insulting his intelligence by calling him, “Nitwit.”

If avoiding flagrant, egregious hypocrisy is at all a concern for you, it is best to avoid accusing someone of something you literally just did in a big, big way.  
Just something to consider.
 


 

As usual, if my opinion differs from yours your feelings are hurt. I don't post alot because, mostly I read. If my opinion rubs you the wrong way, sorry to hear that. I did not call out and insult any individuals any individuals on this site. Are you going to insult Ray Charles as well? I've been a Ray Charles fan since I was young. I'm sure I don't agree with everything he has to say. I do agree with his statement. Sorry again if this sounds sparky. You can always get the moderator after me. If they agree with you, my time here will be short lived for sure.

@parnelligq I think you're missing the point. My feelings were never hurt. This has nothing to do with me and more about presumptions, biases, and labelling of a musical genre most respondents frankly know little about. 

I would have done the same for any genre, really, even modern country - as a musician I know how hard that is to play and to play well even if the musical integrity is dubious. 

And no, you didn't engage in any personal attacks; however, making obviously unfounded and unknowledgeable statements like, "RAP is a way for people with no ability to sing to get into the music business. It's just alota yamma" carries with it an entire carousel of social baggage and judgment. 

You may have an opinion, but based on your observation above, your opinion has no weight to it.