I Am Tired of Bogus Measurements


My expensive shoes have measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will they fit. My expensive new suit has measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will my expensive new shoes match.

The people being misled by measruements aren’t being led my manufacturers, they are being misled by reviewers. Idiotic rankings of digital gear based on measurements outside the range of human hearing. Cancelling entire brands who put out features customers actually want as they sell to humans, not bats. The worst of these websites will rant about their own superior $$$ equipment but mot even one person will ever use speakers in a klippel matchine, they actually put them in a room! The horror. The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.

You need to measure what matters! Are the customers actually happy? Is the warranty honored? Most importantly is their an in home audition period?
I don’t need someone to tell me if I could or should like a product. My room is not a test bench, or a klippel machine. Who cares what the component measures by itself because unless its a clock radio I’ll never use it by itself, I have to interconnect it in a "system" with "high quality" cables, (as in all cables are not the same).

If you want to measure something measure how your personal system of curated components interact with your room. That’s it. The rest of the stuff you could forget because these days if a brand overpromises and under delivers they will be following a formula for losing money, an no company likes that.

kota1

Excellent post @kota1, it completely makes the point I stated above. Here are some key statements in it.

 

In your most recent paper, you proposed a statistical model that predicts listeners’ preference ratings of headphones. How did you first come upon the concept of the model?

We now understand what the target response should be for achieving good sound.

The statistical model for predicting listeners’ preference ratings of headphones based on deviations in its frequency response was really an extension of a similar model I developed in 2004 for predicting listeners’ loudspeaker ratings. The only difference is the headphone ratings are based on a single curve whereas the loudspeaker’s radiation uses several curves to characterize its sound over a sphere.

@kota1. You still have me confused. Are you saying that:

(a) measurements are bogus i.e. false and untrue or

(b) that some people use accurate measurements but make bogus claims on foot of them or

(c) that some people use bogus i.e. false measurements to support bogus claims?

For clarity please state which of the above (or combination) you are arguing.

Hold on.  What are BOGUS measurements?  What do you mean by the term BOGUS?

Dictionary definition is NOT GENUINE, COUNTERFEIT, SPURIOUS.

Is that what you intend?

Obviously no-one wants to be supplied with measurements that are FALSE.  But you mean measurements that in your opinion are not useful.  That is an entirely different kettle of fish.  FALSE means objectively false.  Stuff you don't find useful is just your opinion.

@clearthinker

From the OP:

The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.

Just posting measurements or specs in the context of a component is fine.

There is no universal measurement for sound quality so using measurements to predict sound quality is COMPLETELY bogus.