I Am Tired of Bogus Measurements


My expensive shoes have measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will they fit. My expensive new suit has measurements but it doesn’t matter, all I want to know is will my expensive new shoes match.

The people being misled by measruements aren’t being led my manufacturers, they are being misled by reviewers. Idiotic rankings of digital gear based on measurements outside the range of human hearing. Cancelling entire brands who put out features customers actually want as they sell to humans, not bats. The worst of these websites will rant about their own superior $$$ equipment but mot even one person will ever use speakers in a klippel matchine, they actually put them in a room! The horror. The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.

You need to measure what matters! Are the customers actually happy? Is the warranty honored? Most importantly is their an in home audition period?
I don’t need someone to tell me if I could or should like a product. My room is not a test bench, or a klippel machine. Who cares what the component measures by itself because unless its a clock radio I’ll never use it by itself, I have to interconnect it in a "system" with "high quality" cables, (as in all cables are not the same).

If you want to measure something measure how your personal system of curated components interact with your room. That’s it. The rest of the stuff you could forget because these days if a brand overpromises and under delivers they will be following a formula for losing money, an no company likes that.

kota1

@kota1. You still have me confused. Are you saying that:

(a) measurements are bogus i.e. false and untrue or

(b) that some people use accurate measurements but make bogus claims on foot of them or

(c) that some people use bogus i.e. false measurements to support bogus claims?

For clarity please state which of the above (or combination) you are arguing.

Hold on.  What are BOGUS measurements?  What do you mean by the term BOGUS?

Dictionary definition is NOT GENUINE, COUNTERFEIT, SPURIOUS.

Is that what you intend?

Obviously no-one wants to be supplied with measurements that are FALSE.  But you mean measurements that in your opinion are not useful.  That is an entirely different kettle of fish.  FALSE means objectively false.  Stuff you don't find useful is just your opinion.

@clearthinker

From the OP:

The cancelling of brands, the talking down to the customers, is bogus.

Just posting measurements or specs in the context of a component is fine.

There is no universal measurement for sound quality so using measurements to predict sound quality is COMPLETELY bogus.

@yoyoyaya

None of the above.

Some people accurately measure things that are not relevant in the context of the sound quality of a product and has 0 predictive (or bogus) value to a consumer. Then they try and misconstrue the result as being predictive. Ranking products based on SNR that is beyond human hearing is an example of this That is bogus.

Some people will cherry pick measurements to come to a conclusion that was predetermined. Certain websites promote themselves as being the arbiter of what is and what is not snake oil. If a product they deemed useless measures exemplary they will either bury the results or slam the lab that did the testing. Bogus. All of the videos I posted of reviewers being called out by other reviewers or the companies they tried to cancel are examples of this. Measurements that don’t align with the outcome they want are demonized or ignored. They are being bogus with no regard except one, drive traffic to their website.

 

@OP

Sorry I'm not sure what 'cancelling' of brands is.  Is it a Generation Z term for disagreeing or ignoring?

Talking down to customers is not bogus, i.e. false.  It is just rude and rather negative for sales penetration.

I agree measurements are not predictive of sound QUALITY overall.  But they can often be accurate predictors of aspects of sound CHARACTER, eg a substantial suck-out or a kink in the frequency trace of a speaker.

It is very rare that snake oil type products display any measurement changes in use.  If they did, their proponents would not have to say the difference needs to be heard in terrms of sound quality (a generalised non-scientific term even though it needs to be apprehended).