Casual listening


I find that when I’m relaxed, listening at lower volumes and not intent on pursuing my Hifi ideal I enjoy the music more.

How about you?

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There is definitely a difference between listening to your system and listening to music. Your can switch on the “analytical” mode… or try not to turn it on.

 

However, your system plays a big part of what you tend to do. For decades I worked on improving all the obvious stuff, details, slam, imaging, sound stage. I proudly listened to my “Reference System” as I came to call it. I could instantly identify the venue, mastering of the recording.

I would be glued to my system, for 45 minutes many evenings. The most I could get as I was working. But if I did have more time… well 45 minutes was enough. I would loose interest.

Making a very long story short. I realized the details were way out of proportion to the music and the rhythm and pace was being destroyed. Ten years later… all tube Audio Research gear and Sonus Faber speakers (I ditched the planar speakers) and I am pulled into my system. All the details, soundstage, bass is there. But they are in proportion to the major musical components and the rhythm and pace is spectacular. I fall into the music… I don’t notice the system. I listen now three hours a day and find it really difficult to pull myself away from it at the end.

I can tell in any system what is distracting from the music now. This skill took me a very long time (decades… ok, I’m slow). But as an example I took a friend down to an audio store. We auditioned three integrated amps. The Luxman - highly detailed, The Pass - natural and foot tapping, Audio Research… my eyes would close and I would fall into the music. Easy to tell which I wanted. But I recommended the Pass for my friend. It was because he was new to high end audio and craved slam and flash. The Pass delivered that, but with the rhythm and pace which would satisfy when you were not being impressed with the bass and soundstage.

 

There is equipment made for many different purposes / tastes. Many of us love the pursuit because we enjoy using our analytical skills. But these can lead us away from what we really wanted when we started.

@newbee

I’ll have to look this up.

 

 

newbee

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I bought a fix for that problem. For me the problem arises from having a system set up too well, i.e. the clarity and imaging are good enuf to become distracting (when listening in the sweet spot). I bought a Black Ice Foz SS, a device that allows you to apply more out of phase information which in turn creates a sound (variable of course) with the center image less in focus and the soundstage much larger. Reminds me of what panels and electrostats and omni’s can) do. I put it in a tape loop and now I can read and listen to music at the same time. Just for fun!

I to am always looking for new to me music. And that keeps me more active, than just having stuff playing in the other room.

Stereo is on 24/7, internet radio during the day while I work, playlists while I cook, eat and enjoy the evening. And finally watching tv through it, I enjoy the heck out of all of it. 

Tim

I feel I’ve finally “come out the other side,” blessedly.  
I was never a tech/mechanical guy.  
I ended up going down the audio rabbit hole because I was ignorant at the time, took the wrong steps in fixing what were very simple/cheap problems, and fell deeper and deeper into the audio rabbit hole.  
That hole that took me out of doing what I loved (loving music) and into obsessing over sound.  
I have a remarkably good ear for music, and have an extremely high sensitivity to sound in general. Combine this with a predilection towards obsessiveness, and I was in trouble. Not good for a few challenging, way-too-expensive (expense in money, sanity, time and effort) years.  
All this money and time spent caused me to understand things I didn’t before, so it wasn’t all for naught.  
Now I feel I can simultaneously manage my low tolerance for poor fidelity and still just enjoy the damn music, which is about as good as it can be for me, I suppose.