For those that have heard Dutch & Dutch 8c..


For those that have heard the Dutch and Dutch 8c speakers, Are they more clinical sterile monitor sound or great musical speakers? Also, they have DSP to improve  room acoustics correct?

The reason I ask this is because I was considering upgrading my integrated amp and speakers to improve the sound in my apartment living room which is about 14'x14'. I thought by the time & cost for me to improve my integrated amp and speakers, I may be within a couple grand of getting some powered speakers like the D&D 8c that I could run off of my BS node 2i streamer since I stream all my music. ( I do have an old separate parasound dac, But let's remove that from the equation.).

Does anybody here see a synergistic combination of used items for sale (integrated amp and speakers) that would provide a better value and sound for an apartment system to stream music on?

Oh! My current system is a Yamaha A-S500 and Acoustic Energy Aegis 3 speakers. [I don't have/use a sub. It would just annoy apartment neighbors].

(and blusound node 2i, parasound zdac, etc)

I stream spotify premium for my listening,

[but do have a collection of flac files on hard drive (nas) that isn't even used anymore]. 

Thanks for your thoughts and input about the D&D 8c or other options.

I previously had Revel f208 but they overpowered the room and had a very "dry" bass. Something with a musical size/power less than the f208 and better sound than the AE Aegis3 would probably be ideal for my listening volume and neighbor's tolerance. Thanks!

128x128labguy

You measure with REW and a mic directly into the D&D. Very practical. They give you the sound you wish (by manual adjustment of the input REW curve). 

Without REW they will probably also overpower your room.

Because their very special contruction for the bass waves they will work best if you have equal distance for the speakers to the corners of your room.

I used D&D for a while, and still have them, but since discovering Salon 2's I'm not going back (for main system use) :-)

@koestner ​​​​@gosta , thanks for sharing your experience.  This is exactly the kind of info i was looking for. One of the speakers In my room doesn't fit into a corner. It's against a wall that goes down a hallway, But I still imagine using whatever these rew curves you speak of are Probably going To provide the best solution unless I get magically lucky with something incredibly synargistic for my space. Any idea what the  D&D 8c go for used? (Hint hint @gosta. 😄lol.)

Sorry I'm not located in the States. If you're not "afraid" of active speakers you may also consider a used pair of Genelec 8351 with GLM. However they need sub-bass support when you use them as midfield speakers. Which D&D don't. 

Thanks guys. Any idea how the Anthem STR integrated would do in a similar scenario? I believe it has dsp. Maybe some decent tower speakers with that integrated would be a decent way to go. (And possibly less pricey). What are your thoughts on that? I'm open to other suggestions btw. Thanks.