Duelund conversion to DIY Helix Geometry Cabling

@lemonhaze - I would NOT recomemnd mixing copper and silver wires for a single signal conductor - the speed of transmission of the two metals is different and the resolution/clarity will suffer

Adding the 20 gauge Ag to the 2 x 24 Ag wires is a much better idea provided the quality of silver of the three wires is identical

Regards - Steve

@lemonhaze Thank You for your continued description on the perception of the CCC Wire.

I have the perception that CCC Wire as a standard Cable configuration cleans up the presentation in a improved manner over a OCC Wire as standard cable configuration.

When compared as a DIN>RCA Phono Cable the CCC Wire Cable Superseded a OCC Silver Wire Cable, the CCC was perceived as the wire that offered a preferred balance across the frequencies, notes and vocals were delivered with a improved substance to their envelope and was certainly the least smearing of the Details/Micro Details.

I would suggest that the two cables can be compared at intervals, after experiencing extended use of the wire types being used.    

My HiFi System is nearly all in storage at present, which results in my delay to produce the Helix Cable Design.

I have now offered a friend a selection of collected Wire to build the Helix Design for themselves.

In my cache of Wire, there is a Stranded PC Triple C/EX which has a forged CCC Silver Coating on the Copper Core Wire. 

This is one I was going to strip down to the strands and attempt to make a Tonearm Internal Wand Wire.

@pindac, yes the CCC wire is impressive as is the OCC Ag. As most of us realise systems differ and mine which is border line over-analytical requires, I think a mix of these two types.

I will modify the 'skinny' IC and allow many more hours play and then figure out what direction to go.

What I do know now is that the helix design is inherently superior to anything else I've tried. To this end my Van den Hul Orchid interconnect was my reference. It's basically a single stand of Ag. in VdH 'special' insulation with a coax style neutral and additional screen. He uses hybrid and various weird stuff in his cables. I used to refer to his cables as Van den Dull but the Orchid is an exception to this.

When I replaced the above with the CCC helix I was immediately thrilled with what I was hearing. This one pair of interconnects was not just different and a little better, it took my system to a higher level and my thinking changed!

This expensive exercise has possibly saved me money 🤔

I no longer feel that maybe it's time to upgrade my 30 year old Wadia 15 DAC. Plays redbook only and I do not feel this is a handicap. My DIY power amp is performing beautifully with explosive transients and dynamics. It can stay.

More experimentation with different concoctions will add to the Helix Cookbook recipes.

@lemonhaze - having a slightly smaller neutral will not impact performance singificantly.

You could add a second 18 gauge Neutral which would make it larger than the revised signal conductor, but I would wait until you’ve listened to it and then if you feel there is some shorcomings then perhaps tackcle a second neutral OR even replace it with a 16 gauge neutral

I might opt for a 16 gauge neutral, as it might provide a slight advantage over a 2 x 18 gauge neutral.

I tried a dual wire neutral and for me it did not provide enough of an advantage considering the addition effort it took to build. But others swear by the dual neutral build.

My build was using bare wire inside teflon tube for the neutral, while it is a very nice cable

• I did not find using a dual neutral was significantly better
• I did not find using bare wire inside a teflon tube to provide any noticeable benefit
• My other two cables use 16 guage wire with Teflon insulation

WRT the bare 14 gauge wire - I guess you would have to buy wire with teflon insulation and remvove the insulation. I did this before I found the bare wire

I think there is a version that has PVC insulation which is more affordable

Hope that helps