Kirmuss Cleaning System Discuss?

Here are my thoughts. 

As some have mentioned, you don't have to go through the entire process if you don't think its necessary. It functions as any other ultrasonic tank. Although it becomes an expensive system to do so. 

The idea that records spacing and direction of the ultrasonic devices matters, appears to make sense, and the tests with foil corroborate this. I cannot see how this arrangement cannot be beneficial. 

The two 33 1/3 record is a limitation for sure. Wish it could do more. But the drop in the slot set up is convenient and that looks beneficial. 

Changing fluid after 25 records. This point should apply to any ultrasonic tank, as all records will be dirty to an extent. If you are using it for touch up, then I imagine the time interval can be extended. Unless you can filter to the micron level every tank is going to suffer from this issue. 

Finally, the noise level question is in regards to using it in my dining room which is just off my audio room. It would be nice to run it and still have music playing in the background while I wait. I have a 2 by 2 cube I have records in which would be a nice place to store it. I can use the dining room table for sleeves and processing while I clean, and then put everything away in a jiffy. If I can listen to casual music during the process that is a plus. 

Oh as far as drying goes. I have noticed in my current ultrasonic tank that records come out pretty dry as is, and given a bit of time they do air dry quickly. I also tried drying with a VPI 16.5 and then later a Record Doctor since its orientation is more favorable for doing ultrasonic cleaned records. I am not convinced this is a benefit over air drying. I think the opportunity to add noise exists here. 

A friend of mine had the Kirmuss "restoration" system for a year or so. I used it with him several times for records that were older and had that old book smell.

The system works. It made the older records sound a lot better. As a lab scientist and a physician, I think the seminars that Kirmuss gives are not convincing. Just no evidence for a whole lot of what he puts our there as truth. If you really followed his method, I don't think you would ever stop the cycles of scrubbing, ultrasonic bath, drying and scrubbing some more. You end up just getting tired of it, giving up and moving on to the next one. Great example of how perfect is the enemy of good.

My friend now had a DeGritter machine (like I do) and cleans a lot more records. That system works too and is ten times more convenient. Just pay attention to water changes and filter changes. The DeGritter's drying system blows air to push the water off the record.  The small amount of residual fluid that you cannot see and rapidly evaporates, leaving a residue, is probably not significantly different compared to cloth wipes or vacuum suction.  

I had one and I liked it better than my Loricraft but it was a bit too much of a process. My Degritter is easier to use and gets better results. Plus I don’t have to deal with the white paste anymore.

I used an old Nitty Gritty 1.0 for many years.  A few years back I picked up a cheap ultrasonic cleaner off Amazon and have since used the Nitty Gritty for drying.  Works great but of course YMMV.

@neonknight , Air drying is an unfortunate mistake, towelling then air drying is even worse. You can safely assume everything, towels, the cleaning solution, etc are contaminated with all kinds of things like your fingerprints and fabric softener. You use fresh fluid to clean the record then vacuum everything off and don't touch the record with anything else. There are many machines that meet this requirement. I think from a performance and build quality perspective the Clearaudios and the Nessie vinylmaster are the best units out there. Fan and air drying are a definitive no-no. Air dry a record and leave a few large droplets on there to magnify the process. Orient the record under the light and examine the surface. What you will see are water spots, just like your car. If you think using distilled water will stop this, try it and see. Vacuum drying is the single best way to keep the record from becoming re-contaminated. 

Ultrasonic cleaning is a fad. It is in no way superior and complicates the process requiring a second device to vacuum dry the record. While you are drying one side the other is dripping all over the place.

I would not call cleaning records fun. The trick is to spend as little time as possible doing it. It should also be convenient and readily accessible. You pick out a record to play and notice it is dirty or staticy.  You want to waste 1/2 hour getting it to the platter? Wouldn't you rather toss it on a machine, push a button and have your record to play, crystal clean in 3 minutes? Pick a device that gets as close to that ideal as possible. No ultrasonic machine comes close to that ideal cleaning and drying the record correctly.  You may actually be better off using just a conductive sweep arm to remove any incidental dust and discharge any static.