Harbeth 30.2 or Falcon Gold Badge


I started my speaker search convinced I should was going to get the Falcon Gold Badges (Madrone 50th Anniversary) been waiting for over a month, which left me too much time to think about other options. Now considering the 30.2 XDs from Harbeth. 

I wanted to get some opinions from the experts here on which you would recommend. To give you an idea of my listening habits, it's mostly classic Jazz and Blues, acoustic music. I sit about 8 feet from speakers, have a Sugden Integrated, a Rega P10, Hana Red Cart. I am auditioning Phonos stages so thats undecided.

 

Let's hear it!! 

 

jc51373

I have heard both in the same location and it is an interesting comparison.  At somewhat modest listening levels, both are quite nice sounding.  The Falcon, more so than the Harbeth, is sort of faking deep bass by bumping up the response in the 80-100 hz region.  But, both still deliver plenty of bass for being small speakers.  I hear some upper midrange coloration in the Harbeth that comes off as a bit of a sibilant edge to some notes.  Overall, I actually like the Falcon more.  However, I did not listen at higher volume levels where the Harbeth probably has an advantage—physics cannot be denied, and there are more limitations on drivers and cabinets the size of the Falcons.  I have also heard the Harbeth P3ESR in the same location and liked its sound, but, the Falcon sounded better to me.

@larryi 

 

Thanks, this helps, sort of validates what I am thinking as well. I am going to probably buy both and listen for a while then keep which ever I like most. The Falcons were where I started this journey but somehow got convinced the Harbeths should be listened to as well. I just need to try both in my own space.

In the same size range as the Falcon, I also like the ProAc Tablette.  Played at reasonable volume levels this is a warm, rich, yet still nimble sounding speaker; like the other speakers mentioned, with sort of faked bass, but still very musically satisfying bass.  For a speaker more like the 30.2, I also like the ProAc D2.

I hope this doesn't complicate things, but these are all great sounding speakers.  They all like to be placed away from the back wall and also a bit away from the side walls.  If you need to place the speakers closer to the back and side walls, there is always the Audio Note line.  These are speakers which are so musically enjoyable one does not bother to go down an audio checklist.  Like all of the speakers mentioned, I've only heard them with tube amplification (the only kind the dealer sells).  Most of the customers coming into the shop, if they have a brand in mind, come looking for Harbeths.  A number of Harbeth shoppers actually end up getting Audio Note speakers after giving them a listen; the opposite--those looking for Audio Note, but ending up with Harbeth, is not that common.  

I don't think you will be disappointed with either the Falcon or Harbeth, but if you have the chance, try to hear ProAc and Audio Note speakers as well.

If the room is able to accommodate larger speakers, I would recommend going with the size of a 30.2 or equivalent Falcon / other speakers such as Proac D2 etc. The P3ESR or equivalent LS3/5a version is nice but they are limited in their range both scale and bass, thus making them sound slightly "incomplete". They fit into smaller rooms nicely though and that’s where they excel - small room with limited space, and nearfield listening. Just my opinion.

Although I haven’t listened to the Falcons, personally I’d try them over Harbeth 30.2. Just like Yogiboy, I’ve listened to all models in the Harbeth line including the 40.1 (not 40.2 though), all pre-XD models. They are surely nice but after experiencing the Graham which is another derivative of the BBC just like Spendor, Rogers, Falcon and Harbeth, I find that they offer something more unique. Or the Proac and Audio Note suggestions by Larryi. 

As usual, try them and see for yourself as everyone prefers different things.