Speaker Cables - Long Run


Greetings -

I'm stuck with having to run 20' of bi-wire cable from my Conrad Johnson Premier 12's to Vandersteen Quattro's. Have been using Van Den Hul Tea Track, some say I can do better. 

Without breaking the bank, I'm considering upgrading. 

If anyone would care to recommend a bi-wire cable that would do well in a 20' run, I would appreciate it!

Thank you!

rbschauman

we tend to overdo it, here is McIntosh's MC830 speaker gauge advice. (Earlier manuals noted smaller gauge).

 

The Speaker Wire

If speaker wire is not already terminated, remove

½ inch (12.7mm) of insulation from the wire end

and twist the strands together.

For runs under 25 feet (7.6m), use at least 16AWG wire.

For runs under 50 feet (15.2m) use at least 14AWG, and

forlonger runs up to 100 feet (30.5m), use 12AWG.

12AWG, being the larger wire, can be used in all

the above cases if desired.

The above guidelines are for 8 Ohm connections.

When using 4 Ohm speaker connections, subtract 2 from the gauge.

For example, a minimum gauge for a 50 foot 4 Ohm run

would be 12AWG. For guide, see Figure 07.

Generally, thicker gauge wire is better than thinner

until it doesn't fit in the Binding Post's hole.

 

I make my own using CAT 8 cable. 24 gauge x 8 strands is 15 awg. 8 x 26 is 17 awg

https://www.wirebarn.com/Combined-Wire-Gauge-Calculator_ep_42.html

I use different colors for +/-, easy to know at either end.

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wrap for 3 feet, tape; wrap other direction 3 feet, tape, change direction ....: avoids having to constantly flip the long cable every turn if all wrapped the same direction.

need flat?

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cut connectors off, add spades/bananas etc.

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note: check both conductor and connectors for pure copper (you will cut off the connectors), some only the connectors are pure copper

Agree with erik-squires...the 3104 is a bargain cable that is just that.The cable needs hours of running in...but pays off with a honest timber,some of the best bass in budget/speaker wire world ive heard.

There is the canare 4s11.

Furez 4/14 quad...which is a nice constructed + super reasonable.

If you really want to use, bi-wire to its full potential, and do you have two sets of terminals on your speakers, Macintosh just announced that they’re selling their MC252 amplifier with hybrid drive(this is amplification designed for bi-amping) online from authorized dealers. It sounds like they may be having a sale on these amplifiers. They are the only brand I know of that makes a single amplifier with two sets of terminals that is designed as for a tube sound on your meds at highs and solid-state amplification for your lows. I have buy amped for years and can honestly say it does make a nice difference at higher volumes. If you don’t listen at higher volumes, it’s not worth the trouble. Anyways, that’s my two cents. Hope it helps.

@raysmtb1 Wrote:

You should take the extra money that you spend on the Biwire configurations and just buy regular single wire speaker cables. Buy wire makes absolutely no difference at all you’re wasting your money.

I agree! See below:

Mike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McH2tlfj0vo