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Ethernet opinions

Hello everyone, I finally got my system setup. I had a few setbacks the past few months. My mom had lung cancer and passed away a month ago. It has been a journey getting my system set up which is part of the fun. I am running Pass Labs XP-12, pass 250.8, and Bricasti M3. My original plan was to run the Bricasti with a EERO mesh network since the modem is on the opposite end of the listening space. Needless to say the EERO mesh would not work and Roon could not see my M3. I was on the phone with Bricasti trouble shooting the issue. I removed my M3 from the system and double checked everything with it hard wired to the modem which worked. I was told I could really use any Ethernet for the most part as long as it’s cat 5 or 6. Well, I returned the EERO and got a 25 foot Ethernet cable from Best Buy for 10 dollars. The sound is much better then I was guessing running a 10 dollar cable, for me it’s deff a temp fix. Especially since I bought two audio quest vodka cables. I am using one of them now connecting the room nucleus to the modem at the moment. I have read a bit about blue Jean cables which seem to hold spec. I don’t see me buying a longer Audio quest vodka cable given the cost. In some ways I feel like I spent more then I should have on the Vodka cables at this point. Opinions please ?

 

shtr74sims
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cleeds
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fredrik222

... even with overwhelming evidence from Roon, Naim, and Qobuz, you still chose to die on the hill of streaming ...

What? That’s a colorful cliche but it says nothing. I’m not dying on any hill anytime soon. Sorry to disappoint you!

... where do you get your information from?

I’m a Qobuz customer. The company makes it very clear as to the costs of its services, and distinguishes clearly between streaming and downloading. They are two different things, as has been explained to you previously. The company bills for the services differently, too. That’s because they’re different!

You want to pretend that streaming is caching is downloading that they are all the same. You can also pretend up is down, left is right, and a horse is a zebra. It’s likely no harm will come from those silly beliefs. But you’ll be wrong, of course, and no one will understand you because you’ve invented your own language. Perhaps that is what you want.

.. where do you get your information from?

Right from Qobuz:

 

Experience Qobuz Studio

  • The highest sound quality, for streaming & download.

 

See? Qobuz is a streaming service a-n-d it offers downloads. Amazing, isn’t it?

I hope this resolves your inner conflict.

jerrybj
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@shtr74sims

I was unable to replace the 12m run of phone cable, as it goes through a flat roof from modem to my system. I would have done this if possible.

The cable was Cat5, so compatible. My electrician did the work. I’m sure there are videos on how to do this if you are so inclined.

Have read in a few places that your best ethernet cable should be the last in the chain to your streamer, which is what I’ve done. On the modem side I have Meicord Opal, Blue Jeans and Supra Cat8 ethernet cables.

I’m going to keep out of the argument with F2. If ignored, he might stop.

shtr74sims OP
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@jerrybj thank you, much appreciated. 

fredrik222
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@cleeds  Ok, now I see the problem. You never read what I posted. 

They call it a streaming service, yes, that is a fact. Also a fact, they actually don't have a continuous stream, your streamer/player download each song individually then play it back. That is how the technology works. Why do they do this? Quality. Lots of things can happen on the internet during a 4 minute song, very little happens on a local network during 4 minutes.

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fredrik222

They call it a streaming service, yes, that is a fact.

We've made progress if you now accept that streaming and downloading are two different things. If, however, you are going to continue with your word salad and conflate streaming, caching, and downloading as all being the same thing, then you are just being argumentative. The facts here are clear, and you've acknowledged them. Let's move on.

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