Shindo/Audio Physic speakers

Just to clarify my prior post ....

I have no direct experience with the Shindo gear and I mean to disrespect to them at all .... Hence I have no opinion as to their specific suitability with the AP speaker line

The AP line was on my list when I went the upgrade route.( I did not buy them )

I've heard the Audio Physics sound great with the proper high end electronics that create system synergy, and I've heard them sound bloody awful with the "wrong" system.

The point with AP speakers in my experiences:

System synergy matters big time with them .... I wouldn't risk a blind purchase .

No disrespect ... I hate autocorrect .... (Sigh)

Similar experience with Caldera's. Horrible with my marantz av receiver but a magical transformation w pass labs 30.8

I agree with Akg_ca about a blind purchase, particularly with a Shindo amplifier. Years ago I heard a 40 watt per channel Shindo stereo amp (I think it might have been the Montrachet, I get their wines mixed up) in my dealer's room sound absolutely superb with a pair of speakers (I believe it was Wilsons). I tried it at home between my Jadis preamp and the satellite speakers of my system, which were an easy load for most amps I'd used (Jadis JA80s, Lamm ML-1s), and the sound was rolled-off and lifeless, the exact opposite of what I heard in the showroom. Mind you, I love the Shindo sound, now own a Monbrisson preamp, so I would have expected great sound, but the combination just didn't work. Unless you can get to hear the combination together, I would be wary.

Those are 4 ohm speakers, no? Shindo is made for 8-16 ohm. Probably a horrible match.