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Roon….The Gordon Knot of concierge musical services?

Not sure what my options are going forward.  Had my Roon server on a windows desktop and bridged to both my I pad and my I phone. Everything worked OK for the most part but had to uninstall and reinstall every once in a while . I updated my desktop to a new unit with Windows 11 and after some wrangling got both my I phone and my I pad to work.  Then, first the iPad lost the core and then the I phone lost it.  I have read and tried everything I can find about permissions, firewalls, bridges etc.

So here are a number of questions:

Throw good money after bad and buy a NUCLEUS?   I currently am using a LUMIN D_2 which I have been happy with.   I was smart enough not to buy a lifetime membership to Roon so is there another music concierge service that links up to Apple products more reliably?  Would the nucleus fix these problems or just create more “R.R.A.”? (Roon Related Animosity!)

OR…….Should I chuck the I pad and switch to Microsoft Surface tablet?  That still wouldn’t fix my lack of connectivity to my I phone.

I have been running Tidal directly to my LUMIN which works but I really miss the concierge look and apps of Roon.  Just have had it with them technically because they are doing more to ruin my musical experience rather then enhance it.

Lastly, would love to connect with any true budding Audiophiles in S.W. Michigan!
Particularly tech savvy ones.

 

Thanks in advance for any help or guidance here.

 

 

katieb
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I have been running Roon Core on a Windows 10 laptop for quite a while.  The laptop is used only for the Roon Core. I had connectivity issues similar to what you have described with Roon and my iPhone and iPad until I upgraded my WIFI network. Once I upgraded my WIFI network, Roon has worked well with minimal issues

Roon depends upon a solid, stable WIFI network to work with WIFI control devices like iPhones and iPads.  If your WIFI network is not working well, Roon will give you fits.  A Nucleus server might not solve anything for you.  I would suggest getting some help in determining if you have any issues with your WiFI network before doing anything else.

 

 

erik_squires
15,663 posts
 

Good point about the wifi. There are free iPhone and Android compatible and Mac and Windows Wifi analyzers. They are very useful not just to check the strength of your signal but also whether or not your Wifi band is congested.

If you have lots of close neighbors you may all be attempting to use the same or nearby channels and simply turning off your router’s auto channel selection and picking an unused channel may be all you need.

Since 100% of all streams go through the core I prefer to leave mine wired in, to minimize the Wifi traffic taken by it, but my end-points can be either.

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jjss49
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First, it’s Gordian Knot. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot

@roxy54 buddy you are slipping on your job!!!!  😂🤣😆😁

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wsrrsw
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Okdodul. It’s all over this forum that for most, the vast silent and vocal majority, Roon sounds better from a nucleus than from a ‘puter. Audio grade Ethernet cables, filters, switches, clocks and all that jazz really boost it up too. Tons of info on Agon forums. 

I had Roon at first on an old laptop and switched up to the better setup. The clunky Lumin software still bests Roon by an audible smidge. The Roon interface and experience is the Mac Daddy. 

Alas to “do Roon right” is a few K but you will get what you pay for. 

What’s windows?
 

p05129
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Most people don’t know how to setup a good quality network in your house. Most people get a modem/router from the IP and they are off and running. I did enterprise networks in the late 80’s/early 90’s and there are configurations that need to be setup to get a good wired and wifi setup in your house. Go wired when you can using the best cables you can afford, and then use wifi if you can’t go wired. For a smaller 2400 sq ft house, I use 4 mesh routers so I get optimum coverage inside and around the house. 

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