One last thing: I treat the discs while I'm listening to music. It gives me something to enjoy while taking the time to fully treat each disc. To do a group of 9 discs at one time, I averaged about 90 minutes to do all steps to the 9 discs including some time to let the marker and the solution dry. This only has to be done one time for a disc with the newer AI II formula. comes out to about 10-12 cents per disc to do this. The sound and picture (DVD's) is transformational and will keep you motivated. It makes poor to average discs sound way better than you would have thought they could sound and good discs flat out great.
Bob