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Ethernet switches the good and bad

Hello myself and northeast Audio club have done a lot of testing  ,

a simple switch is very noisy , I own both uptone audio ,Ether regen ,around $5-650 as well as Sonore deluxe. Both of these needs high quality Linear Power Supply to truly be optimum ,by far the best best built and sonically is the Linear Tube Audio is a great buy and over 6 pounds  with a very good Dc cable modt chsrge $150 extra  the only upgrade That works is fuse to synergistic purple and put a decent power cord a solid 10% improvement still the Linear Tube Audio LPS is $750

one company in Hong Kong  by friend tried Ediscreation - extreme is pretty decent but at $1800 Waay over priced s Hong Kong dollar very over priced, and if any issue send back to Hong Kong ,very $$

by far the best I have heard is the Synergistic Ethernet switch which comes with the $200 purple fuse,a $500 power cord it Retails $2200 but can be bought around $1700 and built in high end power supply ,this is actually a excellent product your streaming is much much more analog and detailed ,my brother owns one and that may be my next purchase. in my system it made a nice improvement and I already have a Denafrips Hermes DDC that cleans up digital noise very well . Each product mentioned above works to cleanup noise coming after the router, which BTW 

I bought a LPS 12v up to 8amp from little green computer for $299 and put a Pangea sig power cord with a synergistic Orange fuse. Got rid of the noisy junk wall wart plug , a noticeable improvement and made even wifi signal to TV better, yes these are tweaks but, being a Audiophile nothing is off the table to try .I just wanted to mention this ,and see what others maybe using , Enjoy you 🎶 music 🎼 

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blisshifi
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@vonhelmholtz “It can”, but it doesn’t mean it will. It will depend on the amount of noise coming in as the Ethernet Switch UEF will do an incredible job reclocking and filtering the signal. For me, I had the EtherRegen a few years ago and it made minor to negligible difference. But then someone suggested for me to add a $600 Farad Super3 LPS, which then I added a $1K cable to. Noticeable jump in improvement. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) I tried to use the Farad in another application and fried it. This drove me to sell the EtherRegen and upgrade to the SR Ethernet Switch UEF about 16 months ago. It was a substantial improvement for me. I’m now at a point where I cannot at all tell the difference between my streaming files and the ones stored locally on the Aurender N30SA.

I just became a Synergistic Research dealer as of last week, btw, so take this input with a grain of salt. But most of my loom and accessories for the last five years have used their products, so while I deal for them, I was already advocating for them before I went into the hifi business.

erik_squires
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IMHO, the benefits of high end switch gear is not from the switches but from:

  1. Minimizing the total power supply count (avoid using converters which add more)
  2. Using high quality wall warts like iFi
  3. Keeping the power for those devices out of your conditioned power envelope.
  4. Using shielded Ethernet and shielded power cords to minimize transmission/reception of EMI/RFI
  5. Using an Ethernet isolator for both noise and surge damage reduction

I'll be dead of laughter before I spend more than $50 on an Ethernet switch itself though.

vonhelmholtz
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@blisshifi

I did notice that for some time you have had lots of Synergistic Research on your virtual system. I’m game for upgrading my Ethernet, or maybe adding a new power supply, but just added $13K of gear to my gym without wife’s approval and the dog house is not air conditioned. I’ve got the same purchasing issues with all my buying in that I don’t buy the best, but I go for 80% of the best before the really steep buying curve.

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@vonhelmholtz

You are using Sigma Ethernet cable which uses a pair of CMode filters. In theory, you don’t need any additional switches between the wall and your streamer. Sigma is doing its job of filtering noise. As an alternative, you could bring Network Acoustics Muon Pro kit which comes with their excellent Muon Ethernet cable on both ends. The cost is similar to Sigma Ethernet cable but you may hear an improvement with Muon Pro passive filter over the Sigma. As you know, Muon comes with 30 days money back guarantee and Rich at N.A. is a straight shooter. Give it a try! 

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akg_ca
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Worth a read by Hans on YiuTube  and judge for yourself 

https://youtu.be/BbRF8z8dQFU
https://youtu.be/Io4SDi5hLxs

https://youtu.be/Io4SDi5hLxs

 

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