Why Do Cables Matter?


To me, all you need is low L, C, and R. I run Mogami W3104 bi-wire from my McIntosh MAC7200 to my Martin Logan Theos. We all know that a chain is only as strong as its' weakest link - so I am honestly confused by all this cable discussion. 

What kind of wiring goes from the transistor or tube to the amplifier speaker binding post inside the amplifier? It is usually plain old 16 ga or 14 ga copper. Then we are supposed to install 5 - 10' or so of wallet-emptying, pipe-sized pure CU or AG with "special configurations" to the speaker terminals?

What kind of wiring is inside the speaker from the terminals to the crossover, and from the crossover to the drivers? Usually plain old 16 ga or 14 ga copper.

So you have "weak links" inside the amplifier, and inside the speaker, so why bother with mega expensive cabling between the two? It doesn't make logical sense to me. It makes more sense to match the quality of your speaker wires with the existing wires in the signal path [inside the amplifier and inside the speaker].

 

 

kinarow1

If someone was curious to hear more clearly what various cables do to the sound, it seems they could be tried with long cable runs, like maybe 100 feet. Surely that would exaggerate whatever change the cable is making compared to another cable of the same length. They might both sound bad at that length, but in different ways.

This brings up a potentially complex issue, where a particular cable might sound better at certain lengths, while another sounds better at other lengths, even in the same system.

Have you optimized all your cable lengths? I haven’t. I tend to assume shorter is better, but I haven't tested that notion. It just makes sense to me.

 

The argument about cables is purely objective from what I can tell. Nobody is arguing against anybody’s subjective experience. We take it for granted. What’s being argued is the technical explanation for that subjective experience. For some reason the idea that any power of suggestion is involved in the experience is flatly ruled out, while at the same time blind testing is also flatly ruled out. So, an art of cable apologetics has developed, and that seems strange. Why insist against the power of suggestion? How does one know that is not happening, and why does one care? If it works for you, and you’re a subjectivist, why does it matter how it works? What’s wrong with power of suggestion as an explanation? This is meant as an honest question, not some kind of taunt.

 tried with long cable runs, like maybe 100 feet

my issue with that is I can't hear much from a 100 feet. The street noise really messes with the sound of the music at that distance.

Nobody is arguing against anybody’s subjective experience.

They are there, you just have to go a little further back in the discussion to find their comments. The tenacity of those repeatedly interjecting the same limiting beliefs and even ridicule across many, many discussions is what brings up their refutation.