Schiit Loki Max?

You are right...

I forgot that i listen ONLY to acoustic instrument...Mostly... Then i must undertand that people MAY AND CAN "play" with it to compensate some cd recording flaws...Not because their audio system exhibit flaws,...I confuse my system experience with all others... 😁

But i must say to correct you that it is impossible to experience natural Timbre sound with an overall bad tonal balance... Then timbre experience encompass for his optimal perception and ask for overall tonal balance... But because  you said it and explained it to me  very well , i am wrong then refusing to others the necessity to play with it to accomodate some recording flaws and not so much audio system flaw as i wrongly claimed in a too hasty manner ...😁

Myself i used E/Q only to correct tonal overall balance of my dual drivers headphone for a better timbre experience... I dont mind some flaws time to time in recording...Most of my files are classical or jazz always acoustic instrument ... I did not listen to pop , rock, heavy metal nor electronica... but i must admit that all people are not like me then i was dogmatical 😁forgetting that there are recording problems in many musical genres..

i thank you for opening my eyes and rightfully correcting me...

I wish you the best from my heart...

«Saying that you are never dogmatical is being dogmatical »--Groucho Marx🤓

@mahgister

Forgive me but I’m having difficulty locating my experience with EQ within your framework... so I must use my own framework in this case.

For me, it’s not so much about timbre as it is about overall tonal balance-- most often the highs are too forward or sometimes the lower mids are lacking clarity -- imbalances due to the, at times, frustratingly-inconsistent SQ of compact discs.

The more resolving my system becomes, the better all CDs sound but their individual differences are also more apparent. They do not sound uniformly wonderful.

While I do not keep glaringly poor-sounding CDs in my collection, there are some that only require small EQ adjustments in order to eliminate otherwise distracting flaws that inhibit, as you might say, "immersiveness". This is not typically an issue with acoustic music genres but can certainly be an issue with electric instruments.

I hope this makes sense, despite being presented within a different framework.

If someone cannot hear on the spot the huge difference in timbre between these three cellos,then it very possible that he at least need EQ. for sure to optimize his system but more probably a new headphone or improving his system and improving acoustic in the room...And for the test the listener not only must hear differences but identifying why the no1-2-3 are better in the micro tonal playing dynamis on the spot too...

EQ help to optimize and compensate for some aspects of our system limitations  yes, but it will not give by his own power a completely natural timbre perception if the system is not right to begin with or almost right or if the room acoustic is not well done or at least not bad even if there is no acoustic treatment... And the recording cd or files  to take the test must be minimally good for sure as our friend stuartk pointed out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TXdkcE09lk

@johnk,

I’ve reread your post and noticed ... ahh, we do have someone with experience comparing the two. Outta curiosity where exactly did you find these changes taking place for the better between Loki Max & Lokius?

Schiit!!! Now where is our 10 band ...... Must have more control.

:-)

@mahgister 

You are of course correct in your assertion regarding timbre and tonal balance!

If my words implied otherwise, that was sloppy thinking on my part.

You are not sloppy but i must be right on something!

😊

@mahgister 

You are of course correct in your assertion regarding timbre and tonal balance!

If my words implied otherwise, that was sloppy thinking on my part.