Magnepan 1.7 and Subwoofer help/recommendations


I seem to have gotten myself into a bind with purchasing a subwoofer. Hear me out. I recently acquired myself a pair of Magnepan 1.7s, and they sound great. The problem is at about 90hz, the speakers completely fall apart. Obviously, it's practically incapable of producing frequencies below 30hz, which is fine with me, but my problem is that at about 50-80hz, it's a got a big honking hump of bass that overpowers a lot of the details in the mids and highs. It's like they know that they're about to give out, so they give one last big push. I would honestly rather have less bass in that area, which is what leads into my subwoofer problem.

I use my Benchmark DAC1 USB as a preamp, using the XLR outs going to my Bryston 4B with only XLR/TRS inputs. After having read some suggestions on subs that match well with Maggies, I made a list. Practically the #1 suggestion I saw was Vandersteen 2wq. I saw one online yesterday used for a good price, and I called Vandersteen, and they said that in order for me to set it up, I would need to purchase the M5 crossover, which would cost quite a bit of money ($600 minimum), which I would rather not spend. On top of that, there is only 1 Vandersteen dealer that I know of in Canada, and they haven't called me back as to whether or not they have the M5.

After looking online at a bunch of options, I've gathered that all of them pretty much only have RCA ins and outs. So, my question is: Where can I find a subwoofer that will a)match well the Magnepans
b)I can hook given the limitations of my system
c)Under $800 used
d)Goes all the way down to 20hz (Kind of just a bonus, not really necessary)

Presumably someone here would know more about this. If you do, please help me out and offer some advice. Thanks in advance for any responses.
ninjasquirt
The Maggies are capable of very clean output down to around 50-55hz, if properly setup and in a half way decent room.

I would play around with speaker placement and add some room treatments, if needed.

Subwoofer wise, the Martin Logan and the JL Audio subs work very well with planars.
Mofi is correct. You have to work on the room.

Most think Maggies have no real base, most never heard them
with an amp that puts out a LEAST 400 watts a side at 4 ohms.
How far are you from the rear wall (the wall behind the listening position)? A distance of around 4 feet will attenuate (reduce) the bass peak you are perceiving, if that would be practical. A distance of around 7 or 8 feet will add to it (while also attenuating frequencies around 40 Hz).

Regarding subs, if I'm interpreting your post correctly you are envisioning using a sub which provides high-pass filtered outputs, which would be connected to your power amp. I suspect that using simple XLR-to-RCA adapters at the power amp inputs would work ok, although probably with a 6 db gain reduction. If not, a suitably chosen Jensen transformer, ca. $250, would certainly work ok. However, I am not aware of any subs to suggest which sell for less than $800 used, that would provide **high quality** high passed outputs with a high enough crossover frequency, and that would be suitable sonic matches for the Maggies. Also, I suspect that in order for that approach to be helpful with respect to the bass peak the crossover frequency may have to be set too high to be optimal.

Good luck. Regards,
-- Al
A Vandersten 2Wq will fit all your needs--used one with 1.6s for many years with great success. Does require that you have a separate Pre-amp amd power amp as there is a crossover that is inserted in between them. This rolls off the bass freqs going to the power amp and the 2Wq compensates for the roll off. Also means your amp and speakers are not consuming power to produce lows--the crossover starts rolling off gently from 80Hz and below. The sub uses three 8" downward firing drivers in a slot load and the result is fast, tuneful sub that keeps up with the Maggie's speed.