Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

@texbychoice

You also relish in accusing others of not knowing what they are doing.

If someone has designed something in a way that suggests they don’t know what they are doing, or measures something in a way that suggests they don’t know what they are doing, that is worth pointing out by Amir...or anyone else with the knowledge to do so.

Funny how many ASR-averse audiophiles jump on Amir claiming "he doesn’t know what he’s doing" but...no hint of criticism about that, right?

Post your data, let it stand on its own,

Amir’s youtube videos are hugely popular and he generally does provide data that can stand on it’s own. IF the viewer/reader is technically literate enough.  However...the point is that Amir is aware that most of his audience does NOT have the technical knowledge and gear to vet these claims, which is why Amir spends time explaining what the measurements mean, and when something isn’t doing what it claims to do.

That seems to make a lot of golden eared audiophiles salty. That’s mostly their problem IMO.

no need to engage in arguments to prove you are right.

Amir and ASR get slagged on forums like this, where strawmen accusations and inaccurate claims are made about him and the site. It’s completely his right, and certainly worthwhile, for him to engage with some of this criticism to correct some of the misinformation.

The thing is his critics will never cut him slack. They generally won’t show up on ASR to challenge Amir’s reviews with objective evidence. Instead you see people in forums like this sniping and criticizing, and if Amir ignores it then "Amir just ignores all the critiques of his approach and reviews!" But if Amir actually makes the effort to show up and address the critiques then it’s "Amir is so obnoxious and evangelical, he can’t just leave other audiophiles alone..."

Yeesh.

mahgister

... I did not understand why people are so focussed on one aspect of audio forgetting the other...

YouTubers need to differentiate themselves from the crowd of competing YouTubers. (The cost of entry is so low, that anyone can become a YouTube influencer!) The smart ones, such as Amir, find a "hook" and then cultivate the audience that follows it.

Amir argues:

"The world of audio marketing is broken to the core."

That premise allows him to be the savior. It’s the, "Only I can fix it" canard.

"I wasn’t directing my post to Amir’s proxy by the way. "

That’s the sort of thing that makes each forum’s members feel unwelcome at the other site, isn’t it? This is a forum, not a one-on-one chat.

"if you observe how blindly the minions follow their master and read Amir’s posts on this thread, you will realize that this limited minded group of people for whom using their own head for anything other than eating is too much of a burden, need the Amirs of this world with their oscilloscopes to guide them in their decision making process.

Judging by his responses here, I may have given him too much credit in my original post on this thread. "

And that is the same on steroids.  Congratulations on a pile of useless invective.

"@amir_asr Amir…how about incorporating listening tests and publishing those results along with the measurements. As most reviewers do, list your reference system so that your subscribers can see in what context a component was reviewed and how it performed using your ears as a measurement tool. Don’t use a $99 dac to test a $1700 usb cable. "

As I mentioned, I perform huge number of listening tests in my reviews.  So much so that it dwarfs what other reviewers do.  Just look at my reviews for headphones, speakers, headphone amps, etc.  Here is the latest example of the former:  

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/monoprice-m1570c-headphone-review.45837/

I do these because differences are large so we are not asking if something makes a difference at all.  I suspect that is where you are going with the rest of your comment.

In that class of device, it is critical to perform controlled, blind tests as otherwise results are dominated by improper testing, bias, etc.  To be sure, I also do such listening tests from time to time but I put no value on them, and neither should you.  Here is an example, the iconoclast cable review: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/belden-iconoclast-xlr-cable-review.33929/

"Iconoclast CLR Cable Listening Tests
I used two setups for listening tests: headphone and main 2-channel system:

Headphone Listening: source was a computer as the streamer using Roon player to RME ADI-2 Pro ($2K) acting as a DAC & headphone amplifier, driving my Dan Clark Stealth headphone ($4K). I started listening with Iconoclast cable. Everything sounded the same as I was used to. I then switched to WBC cable. Immediately I "heard" more air, more detail and better fidelity. This faded in a few seconds though and the sound was just as it was with the Iconoclast.

For my main system, I used a Topping D90SE driving the Topping LA90 which in turn drove my Revel Salon 2 speakers. I picked tracks with superb spatial qualities to judge the usual "soundstage." I again started with Iconoclast XLR TPC cable. I was once again blown away how good my system sounds. I don't get to enjoy it often enough given how much time I spend working at my desk. Anyway, after a while I switched to WBC cable. Once again, immediate reaction was that the sound was more open, bass was a bit more tight, etc. This too passed after a few seconds and everything sounded the same again."

As you see, the rest of the system was specified and it was anything but a "$99 DAC."  The DAC costs $2,000.  My Revel Salon 2 speakers retail for $23,000 a pair.  And as noted, my headphones along cost $4,000.

I put all that info in there to impress folks like you, not that they matter much.  :) If they did, then the manufacturer should have put in as precondition of purchase. Which they never do.  Plenty of people buy these things and hook them up to modest systems and claim improvements.  Don't see anyone telling them their system is too cheap for the difference they heard to be real.  The argument is only used when results don't show a difference.

By the way, above review also included proper null tests in addition to measurements.  That testing showed beyond any doubt, with real music, that there is no difference due to this cable:

A review doesn't get more comprehensive than this.