Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

So mahgister,  I guess that you will not helping my go fund me account to help develop the "No trino" cables?

What if  told you that neutrinos cannot be measured?  Let's see Amir shoot that one down!   It's a foolproof scam, I mean plan.  

   😄

I'm joking.  

@prof 

Amir and ASR get slagged on forums like this, where strawmen accusations and inaccurate claims are made about him and the site. It’s completely his right, and certainly worthwhile, for him to engage with some of this criticism to correct some of the misinformation.

That is rich to complain about Amir and ASR being slagged!  ASR has developed slagging others into an art form.  An ASR moderator stated ASR members must treat other ASR members with respect.  However, continued to say non ASR members are NOT afforded the same respect.  Let that sink in.  Speaks volumes about ASR.  ASR lack of respect is demonstrated repeatedly.  

Amir may have started ASR with pure intentions.  For the most part, he has stayed out of the mug his followers like to live in. Unfortunately, die hard followers routinely engage in slagging others.  The issue is not whether criticism is deserved, it is the descent into a mixture of hostility, snark, insults, and skirting slander.  

ASR feels justified in starting a fight, but is quick to cry foul when there is a response.  Perfect example is an ongoing back and forth ASR started and escalated until a response appeared.  What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  ASR throws grenades, stop whining about grenades being returned.  

To be clear, measurements are valuable, but do not characterize everything.  Amir providing measurements as a service is fine,  The issue is the uncontrolled vitriol of the hard core followers. 

Back at the beginning of this thread I asked if the OP uses an auto tuner to tune their instrument or do they do it by ear?  The OP responded both ways.  That is the interesting point.  Many of us have the ears, the fine hearing to tune an instrument, or a stereo, but still need the assurance of measurements.  Being an engineer I also tend to want confirmation by measurement of what I am hearing- although less so these days as I have learned to trust what I hear more.  At some point the best learn to work without a net.

A remarkable memory from years ago:  I knew a musician with great hearing.  He came over to my house and with a single tuning fork he tuned our piano.  It sounded better than ever.  Even something as basic as tuning an instrument by a skilled musician can sound better than just adjusting the strings (or tube length) to a set and measured frequency.  Something about the feel of the instrument in a master’s hands that is superior to measurements.  A good example was some decades ago a renowned flautist was being interviewed after giving a concert.  The reporter, in jest handed the flautist a plastic recorder to see if he could play it.  The master played an amazing tune on that plastic toy.  Very impressive.  

Measurements go only so far.  The feel, the emotional response of the music and the memories make a human connection that no analyzer can quantify.

Correct me if I am wrong, but on ASR forum general consensus seems to be that,  investing in tubes, analog rigs, cables or 'expensive' dacs is something that will not lead to a better sound, to say at least and if a person express different opinion will be ridiculed.

There is no need to say that everyone knows that the price does not equals the qualitiy or that there are many expensive and yet, poor sounding products.

Still, the criteria that people over there use in building their systems (which exclude all of  the above mentioned products) seems very limited, imho and certainly is contrary to my humble experience.

There are so many products to choose from when building your system and despite how they messure, it would be anwise to buy any without prior listening

Building a 'good' sounding system requires experience, good hearing and certain level of craft with all that and its quite easy to get it all wrong. 'Poor' selection of cables with components that do not match with, is all it takes for a such result.

 Even among the people who share my point of view there are big differences between experience,taste and of course systems and the way they sound.

So I am asking this question again. Why 'worry' or argue what Amir or anybody else thinks or does? Is he perhaps dictating how yours or mine system should look or sound? If anybody wishes to follow him or his methods, let them be. Their system, not yours. Why argue about such trivial things (like hi fi) ? 

Darwin is not the problem, most Darwinists are...

Freud is not a problem, most Freudians are...

Marx books are not a problem, most marxists are ...

Etc...

Amir hobby to put useful information and his own opinion is a service then Amir is not the problem, some rude ideologue Objectivists may be the problem...As are some impolite and rude subjectivists ...

Someone as me experimenting for himself, is not the problem , gullible people passive consumers thinking that a cable is the key to audio, are not even wrong, because in spite of some difference beween cables it is never a main factor in audio...

I concur with this post :

To be clear, measurements are valuable, but do not characterize everything. Amir providing measurements as a service is fine, The issue is the uncontrolled vitriol of the hard core followers.

I concur with this post too :

Back at the beginning of this thread I asked if the OP uses an auto tuner to tune their instrument or do they do it by ear? The OP responded both ways. That is the interesting point. Many of us have the ears, the fine hearing to tune an instrument, or a stereo, but still need the assurance of measurements. Being an engineer I also tend to want confirmation by measurement of what I am hearing- although less so these days as I have learned to trust what I hear more. At some point the best learn to work without a net.

A remarkable memory from years ago: I knew a musician with great hearing. He came over to my house and with a single tuning fork he tuned our piano. It sounded better than ever. Even something as basic as tuning an instrument by a skilled musician can sound better than just adjusting the strings (or tube length) to a set and measured frequency. Something about the feel of the instrument in a master’s hands that is superior to measurements. A good example was some decades ago a renowned flautist was being interviewed after giving a concert. The reporter, in jest handed the flautist a plastic recorder to see if he could play it. The master played an amazing tune on that plastic toy. Very impressive.

Measurements go only so far. The feel, the emotional response of the music and the memories make a human connection that no analyzer can quantify.