Classical music thread welcoming your suggestions and why...


My best for Schumann 4 th

Incredible haunting surreal out of this world Furtwangler whose interpretation had never even be rivaled save by Klemperer mastery second, but really only second... Furtwangler here surpass all maestros and taught a lesson ...Perhaps the greatest musical recording among all his recordings, if not, i dont even know which one is over this one....

i stop listening anything after these two, which give their musical direction the power to reveal Schumann obsessiveness near madness and his way to control it with music healing power over tempest...

is it music? It is more a desesperate victorious act to keep control over oneself by music writing ... It is the way Furt, directed it... A glimpse of hope amidst terrors and in spite of it , as a boat lost on sea between sunrising and sun down and directed as such by these two maestros... Sometimes a whirlwind capture us desesperate and is replaced by a false calm and the sun illuminate the darkness to be replaced by fate returning in the turmoil again and again ...

The suggestive power of this music put Schumann beside Beethoven with his evocative power and Furtwangler and Klemperer knows it , it is not another musical piece, but the radiography of a soul...

Sometimes music is more than just music... Here it is the case...

it is not a leisure nor a mere pleasure more a deep vision, crisis, meditation, a trance ...

Any other maestro direct it only as a beautiful musical piece... It is not...It is a mystery dancing in some living soul and here for us to see not just listen ...

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If the world spiritual had a meaning in music it is now...

 

Furtwangler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbyEiplksn0

 

Klemperer :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkU8ULGs4aE

 

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An example from the past of a highly disturbing expressive music and a composer who was a revelation when i listened to him at 25 years old, almost in ectasy, is the great and unique Carlo Gesualdo...

My favorite interpretation by far is by the Quintet vocale Italiano...They convey the emotion before trying to be perfect and plastically beautiful...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c60YJsL37d8

Here the music is saturated "plaint" as saturated Schoenberg Gurrelider will be, the composer goal is to move the listener more than relax him... it is very difficult to interpret...because the singers must not sing for the music to be mere beautiful but emotionnally saturated by chord between harmony and dissinance...

For me Gesulado is not a secondary composer but as Monteverdi and on paqr with him a unique moment in musical history...

For sure i loved poetry all my life and Gesualdo is a supreme poet as Schubert will be in his own masterful way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGuRiuq_qfY

 

But la Venexiana ensemble impressed me too, they are more plastic in expression and very clear, less moving than Quintetto Italiano though... it is the same difference between Liszt Bolet and E. Ny. Liszt playing... I like the two pianists and the two vocal ensemble for different reasons...My favoritism dont erase the other interpretations good points ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRuy8UuRwyo

 

 

In a word the perfect description of an emotion is not the emotion itself...The image of an emotion is not the emotion... The pianist playing he can play the image in a perfect way or can imperfectly play the emotion, but it is way harder to play the emotion because we must feel it totally and forgot the notes...

The written score playing so perfect it can be cannot replace the emotion rolling from the interpreter hands...

For example here : the perfect description of some "nuage gris" from Liszt score by the great Zimerman ( my best interpreter of Brahms concerto no-2 my favorite concerto by the way ) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnkzBbuyy1M

But now no more a "description" so perfect it was, but the emotion itself so imperfect it was by Ervin Nyiregyhazi: Liszt: Nuages gris S.199

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHSF5oeg8k4

Here we see the clouds with our eyes because the emotion is all over the place... It is no more merely beautiful image or representation we see as with Zimerman... it is sadness through clouds we FELT ...No more a beautiful score marvellously played...But mere emotion flowing from the sounds..

But we cannot listen in a distract way the E.Ny. interpretation at all...Too disturbing to be listen in a distracted relaxed way...

We can listen Zimerman in a distracted relaxed way, because it is perfect...

We must understand music, there is no right or wrong here between the two versions... But one thing is certain Liszt could have never been able to mesmirized crowds and put them in trance with Zimerman playing here... He played like Ervin Nyiregyhazi, who was anyway direct Listz student through his teacher Lamond...

 

Music is not about our tastes only but about revelations...Animals had tastes human not only had tastes but  they may have revelations...

For me music history is consciousness history too...I explored it with my guiding tastes as anyone of us , but imprevisible revelations disturbed my road  and throw away few times  my past certainties...

Give the Academy of Saint-Martin-in-the-Fields chamber orchestra a try if you are looking for performances of Classical Era and Late Baroque Era repertoire, especially Mozart and Haydn. The fidelity of their recordings ranges from very good to downright excellent. Orchestral string tone is a particular highlight. The band's performances, most notably the ones conducted by Neville Marriner, are unfussy and insightful.  Their LP pressings are never less than excellent. I got a bunch of 'em.  And oh, yeah, I've seen them live a couple of times.

Very good recommendation...

I forget them a bit in the last decade... It is a shame... Marriner is a great conductor... I love everything i heard from him and his orchestra...

Thanks i will try it again soon ...

The only thing i listened a lot in the last years was his "art of the fugue" Bach version... Among my 5 favorite...I listened these 5 versions  one after the other...Impossible to choose...

 

Give the Academy of Saint-Martin-in-the-Fields chamber orchestra a try if you are looking for performances of Classical Era and Late Baroque Era repertoire, especially Mozart and Haydn. The fidelity of their recordings ranges from very good to downright excellent. Orchestral string tone is a particular highlight. The band’s performances, most notably the ones conducted by Neville Marriner, are unfussy and insightful. Their LP pressings are never less than excellent. I got a bunch of ’em. And oh, yeah, I’ve seen them live a couple of times.

For the past couple hours I've had Idagio randomly streaming Romantic Era violin concertos my way that, not only have I never heard, I've never heard of the composers, either. In any case, no matter who Gernsheim and Frohlich were, they came up some engagingly pretty, tuneful stuff.  Well-played by soloists and orchestras I've never heard of, either. Fine fidelity. Just call me a contented couch potato.