Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?
It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.” And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything? For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think.
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is.
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Now the nail in the coffin of Amir debunking audiophiles hearings by DOGMA with his electrical linear modelling tools used to verify the gear specs: This dude is a physicist i will not reproduce all 33 pages of his article of 2023 , Amir can read it himself...He wrote also about human hearings beating the Fourier uncertainty limits... There is a section dedicated to audio application which is very interesting... Only a short extract where this physicist seems to think the opposite of Amir about the "super" hearing abilities of human : «Claims that differences in upstream components http://file:///C:/Users/Utilisateur/Downloads/SSRN-id4437822.pdf |
"So you deny that knowing the measurements before listening may cause bias?" You are asking a loaded question as to say, "if measurements can bias listening tests, let me use my eyes just as well to do my listening tests." Answer to that is that if you know such biases exists, then you better not do any sighted listening tests. On my end, when such knowledge can create corrupt outcomes, then I don't even do the listening test. Example is DACs. Unless distortion is very high, I don't do sighted listening tests. In other cases, measurements provide incredible value in creating the proper listening test. If for example I know from measurements that a headphone amplifier has trouble driving low impedance headphones, I use that information to drive a such a headphone with content specifically designed to push that corner of fidelity. For speakers/headphones, it goes without saying that we can tell the difference between them so blinding is not needed on that front. What I do in my listening tests there is to use the measurement as a guide to see if I can improve the response using EQ. If I can, then I publish that EQ for others to try as well. Knowing measurements there is therefore a wonderful tool just as it is for your doctor. People who claim they should listen first and measure second, just have it wrong. They will then be giving you a random subjective opinion in a sighted test with no reliability factor. Who is to say their ears tell the truth? Or that the speakers are setup in the way that the room is not dominating the response? Or the content? I have done a video on this very topic: "Reviewing Speakers - Measurements and Listening Tests" In there I show published studies involving professional audio reviewers and how unreliably and poorly done their assessments are. If they can't produce reliable evidence for speakers, what hope is there for amps, DACs, etc.? Answer is none. So once again, measurements are your friend, not your enemy. Don't try to convince yourself otherwise with an argument like that. |
You dont get it Amir... No one with a brain had problem with your measurements information... Everybody with a brain has problem with your dogmatic stance about human hearing abilities limitations in relation to audio experience and your claim that only electrical measurement tell the story to be told about listenings acoustic qualities of gear ... have you read what i posted ?
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"«Claims that differences in upstream components Kunchur has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to matters related to audio. His expertise is in physics and has nothing to do with this domain. I have done a full video on his last paper with totally incorrect test protocols: Scientific Proof of Measurable Difference in Audio Cables? Paper Review In every field, you can find people who write official looking stuff that will impress the layman. Don't fall for it. Learn the topic yourself and then you see that such "experts" are not that at all. |
