Replacing current sub with another


I am in the process in replacing my current sub with something with better control, meaning tuning and integrating. My option would been a SVS SB-1000 pro. Keep in mind I have a very small room and really the Vandersteen 2ci are more then enough for the need of any music. I have a sub not for output but for quality and and response. I have the tools to tune and integrate the sub with the 2ci so that is not a factor. I currently have the HSU STF-2 and is a great sub but it only has the basic controls so I am limited.

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As you own a pair of Vandy’s, why not get a 2wq?

They can be had quite inexpensively, now that the Sub 3 is out, and they will not only mesh nicely with 2ci’s, but will allow your amp to work more easily.

I use the Hsu subs on my office system with a pair of VLR’s, and their integration isn’t not as seamless as my main system -with Treo’s and Sub 3’s (I owned the 2wq’s prior), with either sub, the Vandy’s were a superior match.

Using DSP, has the issue of introducing time and phase distortions, which is something the Vandersteen speakers are built to mitigate.

Bob

@gdnrbob I was thinking of the 2wq awhile back but I never able to find one in my area. The HSU sub does pretty good in my system but I wanted a little more control.

Yes I do agree DSP does introduce some signal latency from encoding and decoding and as long it is away from the main signal chain, it should be ok.

@highend64 ,

Make an account at HifiShark and use the necessary filters to have it email you whenever a 2wq becomes available. I do know they have popped up recently.

You will need either a fixed crossover (around $200 from a dealer-contact John Rutan at Audioconnection), or the M5HP (around $750 used).

I agree, the Hsu does a nice job. In my office system, it is pretty well integrated, But, when compared to the Vandy subs, it definitely shows it's limitations.

As I have said before, the Vandy method relieves your amp to do what it does best, while allowing the sub to take over the power taxing lower notes. You'd be surprised what you will hear when you make the change. It isn't dramatic, but quite a subtle refinement in sound. Hard to put into words, I suppose.

Regarding signal latency-

IMHO, you should try to avoid this.

I am pretty much a digital streamer. This new method of sound reproduction opens up a hornets nest of new issues. My advice is to use the least destructive method of sound reproduction.

As you own Vandersteen products, I suggest you join the forum on the Vandersteen website. Post your concerns and Mr.V. will probably chime in. 

(Hint- he loves vinyl).

Bob

@gdnrbob Thanks for response. I will keep in mind about the 2wq.

What limitation are you referring to?

The Vandie 2W is a good sub, but frankly I'd upgrade the Hsu to a VTF-15H MK2.  I use two of them and have been quite happy with the performance and adjustability.