Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

DonT relax anything... Go on criticize them those costlier speakers designer... I will congratulate you for that...

And who in his right mind can oppose to someone who ask " for flat on axis response and smooth off-axis." Not me ...

But designers will go on with their trade off choices and you will criticize them... All is OK...i will read you...

But dont come to me saying that all there is to say about audio components is their measures set...And dont come to me saying that human hearing impression are all illusory and with no value out of blind test ...

Psycho-acoustic dont say that... Trained ears are not the same as untrained one... Furtwangler and Floyd Toole or Dr Choueri or the creator of my headphone a physicist acoustician of genius Dr Gorike all had trained ears...dont put them in the same basket as people who buy an amplifier for the price tag and dials... Dont put them in the same basket than people unable to tune their own room... Etc...

The human ears beat the Fourier uncertainty why ?

Because he use some aspects of sound by virtue of his non linear structure and brain tools which made him able to EXTRACT 10 times the accuracy information in the time domain permitted by the linear Fourier treshold between frequency and time ... This means that hearing is not explanable only by Fourier methods, and it means that human hearing can be trained and is very trustful when trained at long term... Furtwangler dont need a blind test...he dont pick up his amplifier by reading your measures... It does not means that measures are useless... Who would pair the wrong amplifier with the wrong measures to the wrong speakers?  We need measure for regularity and standards... Deriving all  audible qualities from them is non sense...

No one is taking away anyone’s choices in designing a speaker. Nothing about what I or audio science stands for mandates anything in that regard. We simply as for flat on axis response and smooth off-axis. You can get there a million ways.

To be sure, it is not my job, and should not be yours either, to make anything easy for manufactures/designers. They have their challenges and they signed up for that when they decided to get into that business. I am a consumer and want a performant system. You can’t deliver it? Don’t get in the market.

We have speakers that cost just a few hundred dollars that deliver on these metrics. That expensive speakers costing many multiples can’t is no reason to relax the criteria for them

This thread deserves it's own website.

 

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Otherwise, carry on folks, but I have been down every one of those roads before.

Then enlighten me... Or enlighten Amir...

Or enlighten the two of us...

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I discovered the ideas of Hans Van Maanen that may interest you...

 His site and papers are in his site "temporal coherence"...

"You go @amir_asr ! Taking em down like John Wick!"

Do you really think so Yowser? I think he has made a complete fool of himself. Perhaps you did not read the thread and notice his evasions and gaslighting.
Actually on reflection, you are correct. John Wick is a fictional character and most of Amir's replies resemble fiction.

@yowser @laoman He reminds me of a lot of people with NPD, hopefully this will serve as a testament to not support his "cause." He thinks he is the second coming. I think he is now using this thread to spread the gospel of ASR. Hope it gets to 1,000 posts so people know who he is.

Like I said before religion and science can co-exist bolstering one another. So much we don’t know. I am really glad I don’t fall in either camp of subjective or objective. I can be both or either.