Why is solid state more popular when tubes are better?


Yes tubes are more involved and require periodic maintenance. Hybrid tube components need not apply, these are really solid state.

Tubes are better for multiple reasons and yet the world and the trade prefers solid state. Those rare audio shops that are geared toward stereo listening and serious connoisseurs tend to Focus more on tubes.  Those in business who like to improve volumes tend to offer solid state.  All the YouTube channels looking to improve their business tend to be solid state.  Maybe because tubes require much more expertise to sell, and there's lesser and lesser to go around. Solid state is more of a fast food commodity.

Tubes are difficult for businesses due to all the maintenance and complexity so you see it less often. Much much easier to sell hybrids or solid state.

 

 

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The problem is there is plenty of S. S. and plenty of tubes amplifiers all different with one another...

Then it does not make sense to compare tube and S.S. in general...

We cannot even may be able compare a specific tube design with a S.S. design ?

Why ?

Because these two different designs will respond very differently paired with this turnatble and this dac or this pre-amp or these speakers than with other components...

We must start with a specific goal in a specific room with some idea about the speakers needs...

Or we may start with a specific tube amplifier and buld everything around it...

 

it is difficult to compare...it is the reason why audio is based on listenings experiments every time in different acoustic situation...

Anyway the sound quality of tubes amplifiers can be replicated EXACTLY by some S.S. design at will..

Sansui designed very good tubes amplifiers long time ago and take 20 years to replicate their best tube amplifiers with their top S.S. model EXACTLY the same sound impressions ... They even made the test public with a veil  separating them to impress people... i did not have this site  adress anymore though...

Reading that it was the reason why i bought 2 Sansui S.S. amplifiers...Sansui Au-7700, and one of the first  Sansui Alpha Au 607-i 

Heat in summer created by tubes and short life span of tubes in conventional tube design  push me out of this game... I sold my only tube amp and 50 tubes...😊 The sound was too much S.S. like  anyway compared to my superior Sansui Au 7700 ... 😊

The only tube amplifier i wanted to beat my marvellous Sansui Alpha a S.S. amp is the Berning ZOTL which use COLD tube and with a 10,000 hours life span at least..But the berning sound is not tube like in the conventional way it is described..

Then there is no general comparison between tubes and S.S. it is related more to the crafmanship of the designer, be it a tube amp. or a S.S. amp.

Atmasphere here make for example  stupendous tube amplification if we read reviews and i will not bec surprized if these tubes amplifier beat my Sansui Alpha at all... But not every tube designer is Berning or Atmasphere...And not all S.S. amplifier in the mass market  are build as a top Sansui from the gold era of the company ...

 

Many people like solid state. It happens to be more convenient. But that's not why everyone likes it better.

Not everyone agrees. I'm glad not everyone agrees.  Leaves more tubes for me.

The problem is there is plenty of S. S. and plenty of tubesc amplifier all different which one another...

Then it does not make sense to compare tube and S.S. in general...

It makes plenty of sense to compare tubes and solid state! Tubes have pointed to a failing in solid state designs since the inception of the transistor.

I explained exactly why this is so and the solution in my prior post above.

I just read atmasphere interesting post about class D amplifiers...

very interesting... Thanks... I did not know but coming from the designer mouth it is to be noted..

 

But it take a high qualified designer i imagine to put class D over tube amp... Not any class D design will do... Everybody working class D is not atmasphere... 😊

 

 

This is why tubes are still around- they obey human hearing rules better.

Until recently.

There are now class D amplifiers that can deliver all the musicality that used to be exclusively the domain of tube amplifiers. Because of that I really think tube power is on borrowed time. When people find out the first statement of this paragraph is true, they will be wondering why they have to seek special tubes to make their amp really sing and then deal with the simple fact that a little ways down the road they will have to do it again. They will also wonder why they are dealing with the weight, size, heat and the simple fact that tube power is expensive.

I owned small tubed components for the last two or three decades… preamps and CD players.


I hesitated on tube am[s) for decades entirely because the fact you had to replace tubes (occationally)… I was purchasing at the very edge of my financial ability, and the need to bias. I wanted 100% reliability for my purchase.

 

Well, I am now sorry that I had hesitated. The characteristics of tube amps far outweigh the over emphasized down side. Also, my amp has auto biasing and slow startup, extending tube like and increasing reliability. 
 

It seems and i know that Alas! i did not have the money to buy proper tube amplification ...

Even class D amplification well designed will cost too much compared to my Sansui alpha to try one...

I can imagine at which level of musicality they could go if atmasphere himself  vouch for them over his own tubes amp design ...

I will be sad and desesperate if i was not already happy with what i own .. 😊

but i dream anyway to be able to afford one in the future...I will read about class D...