A Black Box to Solve Everything

Isn’t this whole conversation a bit ironic? Trying to create a high tech solid state device to mimic the natural, 3 dimensional sound of a simple tube based circuit?  I always thought that the primary reasons why good quality tube amps can sound so good is the relative simplicity of their design w/far less components on the signal path & the high voltages they can swing? Not sure if an additional “ black box” would help this ?

Indeed, @jonwolfpell. I wince when I see someone describe an amp as adding "tube warmth" to the sound. That’s not what good tube amps do; what they do is not create the "cold, hard, dry" sound of bad solid state. I always loved the term J. Gordon Holt used to characterize the sound of the best tube amps: liquidly transparent.

I vividly recall the first time I heard "grain" in the sound of electronics. I was already aware of the term and concept from photography, and to then hear tiny little "clumps of sound" in the sonic "picture" a hi-fi was creating (one with solid state pre and power amps), in contrast to the grain-free liquidity of the sound the ARC system (pure tube, not hybrid) I was comparing it with was creating, was clearly audible.

The appeal of tubes to me has always been not what they add, but what they don’t.

@nonoise ....I don't want one of Those.

I'd have slapped it through the desk AND the floor beneath it X times by now....😏

I laugh @ locks....I have drills and cobalt bits....bigger hammers...😑

@asvjerry 👍