Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

I can demonstrate how he is wrong. Again I go back to food. Namely donuts. Let’s say all donuts that are perceived as good follow a basic recipe and ratio of ingredients. This can be verified by a scientific test in a lab. One place sells donuts that don’t follow that tried and true recipe but everyone flocks to buy some. That to me is what audio is like. I actually believe a lot of what Amir is saying but you can’t test food without the eating and enjoyment. There will always be a subjective component to reviewing restaurants if we want to go with the food analogy. 
 

Initially I liked Amir and found the website good. All of my interactions with him were pleasant. But now I see a lot more of his personality and how if he doesn’t agree with a line of discussion he shuts it down. Then people get mad and leave or he turns off the spigot of information because his feelings got hurt. Then he claims he doesn’t care when he does. Talk about subjective! 

Then do it and we will see if Amir will be put in a corner by ARGUMENTS ..

let the donuts wait..

A demonstration as i did ask for ARGUMENTS, no ad hominem attacks even if the ad hominem attacks may be true THEY COUNT FOR NOTHING ... And to be successful the rational attack must be IMPOSSIBLE to be answered RATIONNAlly.. then Amir will be put in a corner... Case closed..

I did it by appealing to HEARING THEORIES...But idiots dont know how to read and ask me to stop and go away..

 

 

Go with your method we will read ...

I can demonstrate how he is wrong.

 

 
 

 

 

​​Would that be because Kevin had access to world class anechoic chambers?

Right, NOT an NFS. Ditto for Andrew Jones, etc,, etc, etc.

We all did fine before NFSs, every speaker designed before a few years ago and since. Including Amirs own Revel Salon 2s. NOT designed/measured with NFS.

@mahgister calling everyone idiots isn’t helping get people to listen to your repeated long winded exclamations. You aren’t listening to why people are tuning you out. 
 

I already explained with my donut analogy. You can look at and test food for composition all you want but taste will always be subjective. And tasting food is the whole reason it’s made. We don’t make donuts to watch them and study them. 

@amir_asr wondering if there are products you like to listen to that didn’t measure well? Does what you actually enjoy listening to always correlate to good metrics?

BTW thanks for spending some time here. I know it can be a tough crowd sometimes. Your site is very impressive and indicates a lot of time and hard work spent trying to put some real parameters around products that people might actually be able to afford. I think that is a valuable service and wish more people did it. You seem to have a lot of dedication to what you do which is admirable. I suspect many truly interested in learning appreciate what you do. FBOFW. Nobody is perfect but striving for excellence is something that should be valued not put down.

BTW I also appreciate your focus on issues discussed.  No personal attacks.  That makes a world of difference in regards to adding value.