Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

@amir_asr Thank you for posting your system photo. For someone so into the science of audio, I am very surprised that you have seemingly given no consideration to room acoustics! There are a number of great room acoustic products/treatments that i am certain would do marvels for your SQ in your room. You may want to try some of them, although I admit, they are all passive, and as such, pretty hard to measure! Your ears would be in for a treat though....if you would allow yourself to believe in them.

My pleasure.  Did you think the system is resolving enough to tell the difference between cables?  If so, or not, how did you determine that.

As to acoustic products, this is my field of study as I post yesterday.  Quickly: there is a lot of money wasted there on stuff people intuit and read online.  The confusion there is much worse than it is in audio cables!

But addressing your question anyway, did you not notice the measurement microphone and computer in that picture? 

They were there in the process of testing Lyngdorf's excellent RoomPerfect EQ system.  I clicked on your profile and i see no DSP solution.  Shame as that *guarantees* your bass response is poor.  And that what you are hearing is bloated bass that is obscuring the detail in the rest of the spectrum.

Forget everything we have been discussing here.  If you are not measuring your room and correcting for bass errors, you have a lousy audio system.  Period.  Measurements will absolutely show that the acoustic stuff you have thrown in there have little to no impact in this regard (don't be fooled by the name "bass trap, " they do no bass trapping).

Anyway after my arguments unanswered... there is no discussion only bashing opposite sides...

Why people are so unable to think? because they trust gear, toys, anything but not what matter : concepts BEFORE experiments... Concepts AFTER experiments...

I like acoustic because we hear qualities and they inform us about the world and people...

Hearing is more deep than touch... Because with ears we touch inside things and at distance...

@rodman99999

 

Feynman was and will remain, my favorite lecturer (yeah: I’m that old).

And yet in the post I quoted I saw no inkling that you have taken one of Feynman’s most famous cautions to heart, when it comes to investigating reality:

FEYNMAN: The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.

Do you understand what he was getting at there? I don’t see that you do, since the post I quoted admonished people:

"IF you’re interested in the possibility of improving your system’s presentation, have a shred of confidence in your capacity for perceiving reality and trust your own senses: actually TRY whatever whets your aural appetite, FOR YOURSELF. "

You were clearly, against Feynman’s advice, telling people to trust in themselves, to accurately understand what is going on. Not a hint of Feynman’s scientific caution that any method ought to control for the ways in which we are prone to error and misconception and bias.  Just "try it and trust yourself."

And of course the rest of what you’d written in that quote about science and everything else was one long strawman.

 

 

                 It isn't that the Denyin'tologists are ignorant.

               It's they're knowing* so much, that's WRONG.

                       *heart of the Dunning-Kruger Effect