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Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro
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thyname
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@mapman My man... you appear to be deep into Amir's well, no matter how hard you try to hide it. Just say it and be done with it 😂

there is only one way to find shortcuts when comparing products. That is of course to do the homework and understand what the differences really are. That ‘s what measurements provide.

I thought you would say "by listening" but, here you are...

And this, very bad analogy:

In a simple case analogy it’s how you decide what pair of pants will fit. You look at the size indicated which is determined by measurements.

Nope. It's by trying them on. This can be in fitting room at the store, or order a bunch online and pick the best AFTER you try them on. Say you are 36/32 on pants size. Are you saying any pants that are of that size would just fit you the same? 😁

 

 

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@thyname I respect and see value in what he does that’s all.  Call it what you will.  He seems competent in what he does and is no more egotistical than many talented engineers I have worked with over the years.  So he does not bother me.  yMMv. 

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mapman
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@thyname  I did say auditioning provides useful information as well so it appears you are selectively quoting to make your case.  Do you work in the media?  😉

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mapman
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Ok @thyname you are free to try on pants without considering sizes. I’m sure it all turns out well in the end. 😉. See what I did there?

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ossicle2brain
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Well this is frustrating.  I agree with virtually everything said by everyone here except for the personal attacks on Amir.  Even with what Amir has said.  He is  focused on measurements but he's an engineer.  

What bothers me is that I want to argue and disagree but I can't.

And just to repeat, Amir has made me realize how little measurements actually matter.  I would not buy or avoid any mainstream audio product based on measurements except perhaps obvious things like watts and sensitivity.  Too many examples where none of the other crap matters and can actually lead one astray.

I should add that I love science and have degree in it so it's not like I'm a science denier.  

OK everyone stop now so that I have the last word.  

 

 

 

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