Can you have too much speaker presence?


My dealer says I’d lose too much speaker presence if I went to a smaller speaker. I’m not posting the speaker in question solely because I don’t want this to become an attack on them. I get it, presence means there and in the area, but can too much become and issue, especially when it is centered in a specific frequency range? 

 

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Stereophile's definition: 

presence A quality of realism and aliveness. 

presence range The lower-treble part of the audio spectrum, approximately 1-3kHz, which contributes to presence in reproduced sound.”

As I currently have a post about looking at New or Used speakers,it's interesting this post came up. I had a small second room set up  13x13" give or take and a pair of Aria948 Focals, with nice electronics. Too much bass, no matter what I tried. I eventually spoke with FRITZ,  and bought a pair of Bookshelfs,  Fritz Carbon 7's SE model, and have been floored  by the Sound!! (Complimented by SVS SB 3000 sub) WHAT a difference, one of the posts I think addressed this.  Clarity, punch, so revealing and impactful, compared to the Focals. I'm sure most of it was room related. Just adding my 2 cents. Thanks for the above posts. Robert TN

I think that different speakers sound differently and that your own desires, not mine or your dealers, should drive what you buy. 

Think critically about the music you listen to and the volume you like to listen at, then listen like that.

Don't make the mistake of playing the speakers at full volume at the dealer if that's not how you will drive them at home. Like driving a mini van at 100 MPH to see how it handles. :D

I've heard some pretty impressive stand mount "small" speakers at a few audio shows (TAD and Raidho are two examples) that outperformed many larger speakers. If you accept the Stereophile definition (thanks Rickd1225) then I completely disagree with your dealer, unless maybe your listening room is a large auditorium. "Presence" can be at least as good on small speakers as large speakers. It's a function of the speaker design. I've heard plenty of big speakers that had mediocre sound.

I was recently watching A British Audiophile’s youtube channel. He referred to the "presence region" as being between 2k - 4k.

 
I know what it is because the cross over point of my hybrid Akg K340 is the "presence" point of perceived sound for males voices slightly under and female voices slightly over 4000 hertz . The prsence points of any instruments differ... For human voices ,it is where the body incarnated Aura of the timbre sound of male and female voices are....
It is why i thought that the crossover point chosen by Dr Gorike creating his K340 was so right choice...
 
 
What frequency is presence in audio?
 
4 to 6 kHz
 
Summary Table
Frequency Range Frequency Values
Midrange 500 Hz to 2 kHz
Upper midrange 2 to 4 kHz
Presence 4 to 6 kHz
Brilliance 6 to 20 kHz