This e-mail has been cryogenically treated


I’d like to announce that, for no additional charge, all of my e-mails will be cryogenically treated. You can’t prove otherwise.

Seriously though, when a manufacturer claims their product has been cryogenically treated how would we even know? At least with seafood we can run DNA analysis, and often we find out we are being ripped off.

How would we know this about cables, plugs, power connectors, etc? Has anyone ever even seen this being done? That’s actually a serious question. I have never actually seen this happening.

How would we even know if, for instance, they treated a batch in 1995 and no longer do?

erik_squires

@rodman99999 "BUT: there was still a contingent (like here, on AudiogoN), that wanted the universe (and electricity) to always make sense.    Of course, it's been widely/scientifically proven: it seldom does."

Yeah, there's "science", there's "math", and there's engineering, which is applied science.  Ever since Maxwell came up with his equations, Newton's laws, and Einstein's relativity, we struggle to make sense of it all, especially quantum mechanics.  But we engineers simply can use the equations to design things that work. We don't have to know "why" they work. LOL.  That gets into metaphysics and even religion, which is above my pay grade. 

All we know for sure is that our current understanding of the universe is very incomplete, but hey, we've only been seriously at this "science game" for a little over 400 years. In that context, it is amazing what we do know, or think we know. 

Not only there is more about cable measures than 1890 textbook about electricity, but what a sound is is not even well known nor well understood phenomenologically and in hearing theory , if you dig the concept in acoustic and psycho-acoustic...

People learning formula by heart at school called that "science"... My discussion with an objectivist lately was very informative for me..😊 I learned from him , he learn nothing from me so powerful our biases are ...

i dig up about sounds now not only about small room acoustics...I had no more room to tune anyway... And i want to understand why i can sense not only direction but location as the recording microphone set in his trade-off from my headphone...Dr. Gorike was a genius in acoustic the designer of my AKG K340...

What is a located sound as a qualitative  sound source  event in time and a soundfield, how informative it is about the surroundings and the sound source  ?

It is a deep matter with philosophical deep questions... I am amazed...I thought i was knowing what a sound is... I was sleepwalking with common place definition...

 

 

 

@moonwalker    

       "All we know for sure is that our current understanding of the universe is very incomplete, but hey, we've only been seriously at this "science game" for a little over 400 years. In that context, it is amazing what we do know, or think we know."

                                                Exactly my point!

         And it often seems: the more we learn, the less we find out we knew.

     

         Since Einstein was proven correct by The Hubble, Physicists have realized; our knowledge only encompasses, somewhere around 4 to 5% of the universe.

          And some want to make categorical proclamations/pontifications, as to whether it's possible for cables, constructed with knowledge gleaned since 1927, about QM, QED and electromagnetism, MIGHT make a difference in one's system.

                                                Again:

                     Let The Cargo Cult go build another runway!

          We've only recently begun to understand how our own senses, as well as those of many of the creatures around us, actually function.

                                                   ie:

                             Do we hear smells, with our nose?

    https://www.science.org/content/article/do-vibrating-molecules-give-us-our-sense-smell

                                                  and:

     https://maxiamoperfumes.com/2018/05/09/quantum-biology-explains-why-we-hear-with-our-noses/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWhat's%20remarkable%20about%20this%20theory,vibrate%20at%20a%20particular%20frequency.

                                          Enjoy Science?

           https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-21150046

                                      Quantum Bird GPS?

     https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-migrating-birds-use-quantum-effects-to-navigate/

                                       Who am I to argue?

                                          Happy listening!

                          In keeping with the thread's theme, I'll rephrase:

       And some want to make categorical proclamations/pontifications, as to whether it's possible for cables, constructed with knowledge gleaned since 1927, about CRYOGENICS, QM, QED and electromagnetism, MIGHT make a difference in one's system.

       Far as determining whether they indeed are cryo'd: street cred builds TRUST, in my book and it's hard to fool EVERYONE.

        At some point: if, "cryo'd" is an important decision maker/breaker; prior to purchase, one must decide: will they TRUST the purveyor's claims, or- purchase an Electron Microscope and compare some surfaces.

         I seldom buy things, that haven't been recommended/tested*, if not: lauded by others.

        *ie:  Not a cryo'd issue (never had anything thus treated), but; NASA compared Big Silver Oval speaker cables, against a number of others, with which to power their LASERS and found their performance superior.

                   Gave me confidence/trust and I wasn't disappointed.

"Oh, for cryo'in out loud...."

I had to go there...;)  Makes me want to have my mortal remains freeze-dried, just 'cuz....

Now, I'll go away...😏

Do carry on....