Classical music thread welcoming your suggestions and why...


My best for Schumann 4 th

Incredible haunting surreal out of this world Furtwangler whose interpretation had never even be rivaled save by Klemperer mastery second, but really only second... Furtwangler here surpass all maestros and taught a lesson ...Perhaps the greatest musical recording among all his recordings, if not, i dont even know which one is over this one....

i stop listening anything after these two, which give their musical direction the power to reveal Schumann obsessiveness near madness and his way to control it with music healing power over tempest...

is it music? It is more a desesperate victorious act to keep control over oneself by music writing ... It is the way Furt, directed it... A glimpse of hope amidst terrors and in spite of it , as a boat lost on sea between sunrising and sun down and directed as such by these two maestros... Sometimes a whirlwind capture us desesperate and is replaced by a false calm and the sun illuminate the darkness to be replaced by fate returning in the turmoil again and again ...

The suggestive power of this music put Schumann beside Beethoven with his evocative power and Furtwangler and Klemperer knows it , it is not another musical piece, but the radiography of a soul...

Sometimes music is more than just music... Here it is the case...

it is not a leisure nor a mere pleasure more a deep vision, crisis, meditation, a trance ...

Any other maestro direct it only as a beautiful musical piece... It is not...It is a mystery dancing in some living soul and here for us to see not just listen ...

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If the world spiritual had a meaning in music it is now...

 

Furtwangler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbyEiplksn0

 

Klemperer :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkU8ULGs4aE

 

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Now suppose Mephisto exist and touch the piano...Liszt thought about him ...He composed some pieces where it is Mephisto himself who he had  summon to play himself through him ... Which pianist can play as Mephisto in person touching the piano  ? Liszt , but who else?

It will be pure madness and grace with the power of volcano ...

Philistine "cake tasting" esthetes could say " Full of bad notes and distasteful" when listening E. Ny.

I say that Mephisto himself as Liszt intended him to play was playing not a first prize model pianist with E. Ny. ...

E.Ny. is a genius...

The greatest pianist i ever heard , not always the more perfect, but the most powerfully expressive of all...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtSHsZj566Q&list=RDwtSHsZj566Q&start_radio=1

Now listen to Richter, the great disciple of Sofronitsky himself...

Compared to E. Ny. we dont listen Mephisto himself in person playing, we listen to a marvellously well played REPRESENTATION of Mephisto, not the devil himself playing as with E.Ny.

Which one is the best?

It is not a question of taste not even a contest... It is the difference between a perfect image of the devil and the devil incarnated playing himself...

There is no best pianist..

There is level of expressiveness and levels of expressiveness are not levels of formal perfection ...

When we listen Richter we are at ease and contemplating an image... When we listen E.Ny. we are deeply disturbed and it is impossible to listen to him relaxed , our body is tensed as if we assisted to the devil playing... Richter is almost boring compared to E.Ny. ... And Richter is one of the greatest pianist from the Russian school surpassed only by Sofronitsky who anyway is on par with E. Ny. for expressiveness in his own way...

Richter :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n-GrOpTOjs

 

 

 

Richter could be disturbingly demonic as well.  Try his “Bydlo” from the live Sofia (Bulgaria) recording of Pictures at An Exhibition.  I have never heard anyone project the menace in that piece as he did.  Or his numerous recordings of Beethoven’s Appassionata

Richter was one of the best pupils of Sofrontisky and i will listen your recommendation... I just want a cpmparison illustrating the sheer power of E. Ny compared to a pianist undoubtedly powerful too to put a level comparison..

Thanks for these recommendations...

 

Richter could be disturbingly demonic as well.  Try his “Bydlo” from the live Sofia (Bulgaria) recording of Pictures at An Exhibition.  I have never heard anyone project the menace in that piece as he did.  Or his numerous recordings of Beethoven’s Appassionata

John Ogdon is a powerful pianist...Master of expression way more than a mere perfect virtuoso...

Anybody can verify with his Busoni recording or with his Sorabji Clavicem ballisticus unrivalled rendition...

This short Liszt piece reveal why :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aU_cmFD5k8

Only E.Ny. can rival him...😊 Or Sofronotsky and few others...

Ogden was my favorite Schumann Piano Concerto recording, with Paavo Berglund conducting.  The perfectly capture the rhapsodic nature of that piece